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Old 05-03-2017, 05:51 AM   #21
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I've heard of cooking on a shovel but in a paper bag is new to me..
I can understand where, depending on where one is, regional differences in camping food preparation. Some like baked chicken and muffins, like Momma used to make, others like grilling meat on a hot surface, be it griddle or a shovel, like the rail roaders. Then there is Dave, a boy scout at heart who can cook things unheard of ways, see here
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Old 05-03-2017, 10:35 AM   #22
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I've heard of cooking on a shovel ...
Or how about "hoecakes" (fried cornmeal cakes) that plantation slaves cooked on their hoes while out in the field hoeing cotton. Just build a small fire wherever you are, stir water into cornmeal to make a paste, smear some bacon grease on the hoe to keep the cornmeal paste from sticking to it (and to add a little pork flavoring), then use the hoe like a spatula to fry little cornmeal cakes over the fire. Not a lot of food pyramid nutrients there, but a simple meal to carry with you and make in the field, and I imagine it kept at least some of the hunger pangs at bay until sundown and supper.
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I've heard of cooking on a shovel but in a paper bag is new to me..
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Old 05-03-2017, 12:27 PM   #24
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Nope. No way I am adding a shovel to my cookware collection!
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Utensiless cooking

If you watched the video here's my refining take on it. We used to use a heavy paper sack like they put your ice cream in at the store but not the one with the plastic lining.
We used 4 pieces of bacon two cut in half and two cut in thirds and wove them together as we put them in the bag. We used a 1 inch diameter willow stick that we split in the center but not clear to the end, did not use a camp fork. Cooked over embers only no fresh wood. Two eggs or
Two field found duck eggs or one Canadian Goose egg. Salt and pepper.
For another variant get a big orange with a thick rind and slice it with your knife around the equator, just to the orange inside and gently peel the half off of the northern and Southern Hemisphere. Then eat the orange. Take an egg and crack it into the peel half and set right on a low fire embers. Egg will "set" peel it out and eat the egg. These fires don't need to be much more than a little stick fire with sticks not over an inch in diameter. We taught this to Scouts getting their Wilderness Survival merit badge and as part of their cooking merit badge too. I had ten Eagles when I was Scoutmaster in the 90s
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We had domestic ducks and geese for a while, so I've eaten lots of duck and goose eggs - they're good. While harvesting wild duck and goose eggs seems like a valid survival technique to me, it also seems to be clearly illegal (for good reason) to take the eggs of migratory birds without a permit, at least in Canada:
Migratory Birds Regulations
I'm sure there are similar regulations for non-migratory birds, with specific exceptions.

There are laws in the U.S. regarding migratory birds, which I assume cover eggs, but I have not checked the details:
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service - Migratory Bird Hunting Regulations

Maybe stick with farm-raised chicken (or duck) eggs for the paper bag.
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Old 05-03-2017, 04:31 PM   #27
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Gross. I grew up on a farm with chicken and roosters. Make certain any wild eggs are "candled" or you're liable to end up with half-baked chicks in your breakfast. I'm grateful for Safeway...
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Gross. I grew up on a farm with chicken and roosters. Make certain any wild eggs are "candled" or you're liable to end up with half-baked chicks in your breakfast. I'm grateful for Safeway...
I take it then that you aren't a 'Balut' fan Donna?

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We had domestic ducks and geese for a while, so I've eaten lots of duck and goose eggs - they're good. While harvesting wild duck and goose eggs seems like a valid survival technique to me, it also seems to be clearly illegal (for good reason) to take the eggs of migratory birds without a permit, at least in Canada:
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I'm sure there are similar regulations for non-migratory birds, with specific exceptions.

There are laws in the U.S. regarding migratory birds, which I assume cover eggs, but I have not checked the details:
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Maybe stick with farm-raised chicken (or duck) eggs for the paper bag.
I do agree with Brian, but if it is a valid survival situation, I would suspect that the authorities are not going to catch you. And if they are nearby and could catch you, then it no longer is a valid survival situation because you have been rescued. However, many of the "enforcement" types only see in black and white with no shades of gray, but I think if you could prove it was a matter of life and death, the courts would likely overlook violations. I would think, however, that if lost in the woods there would be sources of nourishment other than the eggs of migratory birds. Thank you for bringing up this consideration. People should be aware of laws regarding migratory birds and other wildlife.
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I take it then that you aren't a 'Balut' fan Donna?
No, absolutely not. Dental floss works for me.. feathers.. not so much.
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