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12-06-2015, 07:42 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Acworth, Georgia
Trailer: Escape 21NE (our third Escape)
Posts: 153
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Escape 19 vs 5.0 TA?
Thanks to all that gave input on my last question. I hope I'm in the right category - introductions.
Now I'm considering a new Escape. Please indulge me with your wisdom and experience. Please compare & contrast the 19 and the 5.0 TA? (both old and new)
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12-06-2015, 07:58 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,310
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The 5.0TA is wider (and of course taller), much bigger kitchen counter. About the only similarities I see are both side-bath models, tandem axles and queen beds.
In the 5.0TA, dinette is in the back, 19' in the front. A 5.0TA has 20' of living space, the 19' has 16' of living space. But nearly the same footprint lengthwise. 90% different interior layout.
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Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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12-06-2015, 08:41 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,055
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard in Georgia
Thanks to all that gave input on my last question. I hope I'm in the right category - introductions.
Now I'm considering a new Escape. Please indulge me with your wisdom and experience. Please compare & contrast the 19 and the 5.0 TA? (both old and new)
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Hi: Richard in Georgia... As Donna D's floor plans show the 5.0TA at 20'2" is 99% usable floor space. We like the bed area being more separate.
Travelling with our 30 something daughter I put a spring loaded shower rod and a curtain across the dinette and she has a larger than queen bed.
Yea I know I put my foot in it again!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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12-06-2015, 12:26 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Alaska, Washington
Trailer: 2014 5.0 TA
Posts: 451
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Richard, for us it was interior room versus overall tow vehicle length plus trailer. We boondock mostly at BLM, state and provincial parks, we can fit into some very small sites. Have fun with the decision making process. Scott
Scott & Lori
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12-06-2015, 01:03 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Acworth, Georgia
Trailer: Escape 21NE (our third Escape)
Posts: 153
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Lots of love for the 5.0 TA .....
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12-06-2015, 01:23 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Olathe, Kansas
Trailer: 2015 21ft Escape "Spirit of the Plains", 2014 GMC Sierra with max tow package
Posts: 1,100
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What ever you do, just be sure and visually tour the trailers you are interested in. Seeing them in person is so much different from just looking at spec sheets or pictures. Then you will know that you have it right as to what will work for you. If you are going to spend $35,000, it is cheaper to get it right the first time. We went to Chilliwack set on the 19 and ended up with the 21. The 5.0TA was eliminated because we wanted the pickup box to haul all of our junk. Loren
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12-06-2015, 02:03 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
Trailer: None, sold my 2014 5.0TA
Posts: 7,124
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They both have their good points, it of course depends entirely on you.
19, small enough to pull with a car or a small truck and still have the bed free, both giving you decent mileage. Better mileage, overall a smaller package.
5.0TA, 4" wider, 4' longer, about 3' higher. Bigger dinette, separate (sort of) bedroom, more storage, bigger holding tanks, bigger fridge. A fifth wheel tows nicer.
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Bob
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12-06-2015, 02:11 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard in Georgia
Please compare & contrast the 19 and the 5.0 TA? (both old and new)
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Clarification: the "5.0TA" is the new (current) fifth-wheel; the original (now discontinued) fifth-wheel was just called the "5.0". There is no "old 5.0TA".
- The 5.0TA is wider than the 19; the 5.0 was narrower than the 19.
- The 5.0TA and 19 have tandem axles; the 5.0 had a single axle.
- The 5.0TA has Dexter beam axles with leaf springs connected by a Dexter E-Z Flex cushioned equalizers; the 5.0 and 19 (and all other Escape models) have Dexter Torflex independent rubber-sprung suspension.
- The 19 has a permanent bed in the rear and dinette in front; both 5.0 and 5.0TA has the permanent bed in the front loft and a dinette in the back.
The middle section (kitchen and bath) of all three of these trailers is laid out in the same arrangement, although different in dimensions.
Frame construction, body construction and components, cabinetry, appliances, wheels and tires, and other components are similar between all models.
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12-06-2015, 02:57 PM
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 - "Felicity"
Posts: 2,950
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Terminology: how about the old model as a 5 SA?
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12-06-2015, 03:00 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,680
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I had the 19, and am now getting a 5.0TA. The two are very different.
If you don't want to commit to a pickup truck, and many don't for lots of good reasons, then the 19 will fit the bill. It is a fantastic trailer, laid out extremely well for its size. I put my deposit on one before the even hit production, knowing it was the best option for me out there.
The move to the 5.0TA came about for a few reasons. A few were, I like the separation of the bed from the living area as it is in the 19, for extended trips into our future, the added size is nice. But mostly, I want a new trailer to do major modifications to right away, and will have it built accordingly. I have spent a lot of time planning what I will do (Chris R has been very helpful with giving me lots of ideas via email on how to spend more money ), and want materials I will do it with. So, it is a project as much as a change of trailers. I am enjoying this planning stage very much, and hopefully the implementation phase will be as much fun.
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2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
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12-06-2015, 07:13 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19 "Seventy Degrees"
Posts: 3,495
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19 Rocks!
I just finished washing the new 19 for the first time. As a senior advancing in age I can't imagine how I'd get way up on a ladder and wash n wax a 5.0 TA someday soon. Less is more.....
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12-06-2015, 08:05 PM
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#12
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,210
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg A
19 Rocks!
I just finished washing the new 19 for the first time. As a senior advancing in age I can't imagine how I'd get way up on a ladder and wash n wax a 5.0 TA someday soon. Less is more.....
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Another vote for the 19 . It has all I need . Pat
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12-06-2015, 08:27 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,225
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Just got home from the Matagorda Rally, and I spent alot of time in the 5.0TA. It's really quite different than our 19, so I don't think there's a real comparison. It feels cavernous inside when compared to our 19. If you want ROOM, and you have a pickup, and the means, then the 5.0 TA is just super. We love our 19, and have no plans to change, but the 5er is what I consider the tip top from Escape.
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12-06-2015, 08:38 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,055
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg A
19 Rocks!
I just finished washing the new 19 for the first time. As a senior advancing in age I can't imagine how I'd get way up on a ladder and wash n wax a 5.0 TA someday soon. Less is more.....
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Hi: Greg A... It took my wife to figure out that the 5.0TA can kneel down electrically to be washed by this old guy. Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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Quote Bugs Bunny..."Don't take life too seriously, none of us get out of it ALIVE"!!!
'16 Ram Eco D. 4X4 Laramie Longhorn CC & '14 Escape 5.0TA
St.Thomas (Not the Virgin Islands) Ontario
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12-06-2015, 08:47 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denison, Texas
Trailer: 2015 21'; 2011 19' sold; 4Runner; ph ninezero3 327-27ninefour
Posts: 5,136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard in Georgia
Thanks to all that gave input on my last question. I hope I'm in the right category - introductions.
Now I'm considering a new Escape. Please indulge me with your wisdom and experience. Please compare & contrast the 19 and the 5.0 TA? (both old and new)
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For anyone who does not want a pickup or steps, the 21' is the more comparable to the 5.0TA.
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Cathy. Floating Cloud
"Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air.... "
Emerson
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12-06-2015, 09:20 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19 "Seventy Degrees"
Posts: 3,495
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Quote:
Originally Posted by escape artist
Hi: Greg A... It took my wife to figure out that the 5.0TA can kneel down electrically to be washed by this old guy. Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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Alf,
I gotta have a picture of that!
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12-06-2015, 09:55 PM
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#17
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,210
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Floating Cloud
For anyone who does not want a pickup or steps, the 21' is the more comparable to the 5.0TA.
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Cathy the 19 does have a queen bed . The shower for 19 and 5 th are the same size . The 21 is a little bigger . Pat
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12-06-2015, 10:11 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,210
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patandlinda
Cathy the 19 does have a queen bed . The shower for 19 and 5 th are the same size . The 21 is a little bigger . Pat
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Was just thinking I would miss my front box too . You can get the box with 21 too. I also put lots in my truck bed , most important extra water containers etc. ,if boondocking . There is nothing perfect. Good about all the trailers . Even like the 17 . Best for me , all is paid for , truck and trailer . Money is getting harder to get , the older I get . Figure out what is important to you and go with it . I also am glad I didn't have to wait so long to get my new trailer . 4 month's for me was long enough . Pat
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12-06-2015, 10:14 PM
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#19
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Bellingham and Glacier, Washington
Trailer: 2013 Escape 15A
Posts: 2,067
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg A
Less is more.....
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And that's why I love my little 15A and wouldn't have any other...
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Karen Hulford
2013 Escape 15A, "Egbert"
'93 Ford 150 XLT or
'22 GMC Acadia Denali
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12-06-2015, 10:29 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,210
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KarenH
And that's why I love my little 15A and wouldn't have any other...
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Forgot Karen the 15 's were great trailers too . Escape was still making them then . Guess I went for the 19 for the big bed and the bath was a great size coming from my little one in my camper . I think I like them all . Pat
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