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Old 04-25-2019, 09:16 AM   #21
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We retrofitted our awning with this. It works very easily and reduces a lot of weight from the setup. I was surprised how heavy the spring is.

https://www.amazon.com/Carefree-8500...RW58DA1Y6BY8N0
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Old 04-25-2019, 10:23 AM   #22
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Sorry Perry wanted to quote Jim ! Pat
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We retrofitted our awning with this. It works very easily and reduces a lot of weight from the setup. I was surprised how heavy the spring is.

https://www.amazon.com/Carefree-8500...RW58DA1Y6BY8N0
Yes on our previous RV , removed the spring and installed the" Pioneer kit " . I think the spring in 10 ft awning weighed 72 lbs . So if awning is longer probably weighs more . Actually liked how it worked . Pat
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Didn't know that . I thought it was just minutes . Thankyou for the info. I was just addressing Jim because you already stated you liked your manual awning . Pat
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Old 04-25-2019, 07:20 PM   #25
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Thanks for all the replies and info on the awning, anti sway hitch, solar, and everything else. All this info and yes the sometimes conflicting opinions does really help someone new to RVs in general and Escapes in particular to make decisions. We have about a month left to make our decisions so please keep commenting about anything and everything!
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We retrofitted our awning with this. It works very easily and reduces a lot of weight from the setup. I was surprised how heavy the spring is.

https://www.amazon.com/Carefree-8500...RW58DA1Y6BY8N0
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I'm glad I saw this. I had something like it on my Lance truck camper and thought it was great. Did you install yourself and if so how difficult was the process? There is a warning about the spring tension when removing. Thanks jn
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Some residential garage doors have the big spring and some have the smaller ones along the rails. Either way, there is a lot of tension to raise that heavy door and I had one break, the damage done by the spring flailing around was costly. I was glad I was not in the garage when it happened (when the door was closed)
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Old 04-26-2019, 08:32 AM   #28
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I'm glad I saw this. I had something like it on my Lance truck camper and thought it was great. Did you install yourself and if so how difficult was the process? There is a warning about the spring tension when removing. Thanks jn
It wasn't hard at all. Used a couple of ladders to set it on, and two people to maneuver it a bit. The holes in the end caps didn't all line-up, so was a bit confusing; I just used two instead of three screws but it's not coming off.

The instructions are pretty easy.
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It wasn't hard at all. Used a couple of ladders to set it on, and two people to maneuver it a bit. The holes in the end caps didn't all line-up, so was a bit confusing; I just used two instead of three screws but it's not coming off.

The instructions are pretty easy.
Who makes the Escape awning? Also, did have to do any modification to the side arms?
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Who makes the Escape awning? Also, did have to do any modification to the side arms?
The manual awning that is now again being offered is a Carefree Fiesta. Maybe it is just me, but I'm confused about this crank out modification. Its really easy to just grab the tab and pull the awning out and then release it and let it wind in.

https://www.carefreeofcolorado.com/fiesta/
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:42 AM   #31
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The manual awning that is now again being offered is a Carefree Fiesta. Maybe it is just me, but I'm confused about this crank out modification. Its really easy to just grab the tab and pull the awning out and then release it and let it wind in.

https://www.carefreeofcolorado.com/fiesta/
Two things make the crank set-up a possible improvement. One is reducing the weight from the awning which reduces the stresses on the mounting points as you drive. The internals really are heavy.

The other is it's possible (unlikely) for the awning to release while you are traveling down the road. Securing the arms will not prevent the roller from releasing, causing the awning to become a sail at 60 mph. Again, it's not likely for the roller to release on its own but there are stories out there where it has happened.

There are even devices sold to prevent roller release, essentially locking the spool from rotating. We just decided that the crank was a better solution and gives the same safety.
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Two things make the crank set-up a possible improvement. One is reducing the weight from the awning which reduces the stresses on the mounting points as you drive. The internals really are heavy.

The other is it's possible (unlikely) for the awning to release while you are traveling down the road. Securing the arms will not prevent the roller from releasing, causing the awning to become a sail at 60 mph. Again, it's not likely for the roller to release on its own but there are stories out there where it has happened.

There are even devices sold to prevent roller release, essentially locking the spool from rotating. We just decided that the crank was a better solution and gives the same safety.
Thank you for the information. Valid points. I do see on the Carefree website that the Pioneer upgrade kit is compatible with 1997 and newer Fiesta awnings...
https://www.carefreeofcolorado.com/p...grade-kit.html
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Old 04-26-2019, 11:05 AM   #33
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The manual awning that is now again being offered is a Carefree Fiesta. Maybe it is just me, but I'm confused about this crank out modification. Its really easy to just grab the tab and pull the awning out and then release it and let it wind in.

https://www.carefreeofcolorado.com/fiesta/
Thanks for the info about the manufacturer and model. Looking at the orientation video I agree it appears a very simple operation. I also think, if for about $70 USD you can make the operation even simpler and more convenient plus eliminate about 70 lbs weight, for some people that's an option worth thinking about. I had a crank out awning on my truck camper that appeared identical to the Escape power awning and wish that I had something similar to that for the Escape. It was very convenient. The price point for the Escape power awning placed it above my budget restrictions otherwise I might have gotten the power awning. Thanks again for the info.
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I'm removing the wheels on my trailer. It will save weight and I've heard stories of people getting flat tires.
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I'm removing my propane tanks and going electric because I've heard that when the tanks run out you have to buy a new trailer.

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Old 04-26-2019, 11:39 AM   #36
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I know you were addressing Mesa but we installed. Also on our truck camper . It was very easy install . The only part to be careful with is removing the spring . Just follow the instructions . You will carefuly unwind the spring tension. Then remove the end cap and remove the spring . Replace with new end cap and that's it . Worked excellent . Ours was also the awning from Lance . Pat
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I'll try to attach a picture of the my Lance setup. I see on the awning label it say's "Freedom". I had both awnings installed. The one on the side was the crank out and the one over the door was manual.
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I'm removing the wheels on my trailer. It will save weight and I've heard stories of people getting flat tires.
Probably hurt you fuel mileage, but knock yourself out.
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I also think, if for about $70 USD you can make the operation even simpler and more convenient plus eliminate about 70 lbs weight, for some people that's an option worth thinking about
I was just messing with my awning and I find it hard to believe there is 70 lbs of springs. Including the other parts and awning fabric itself I should have felt something very heavy. It's a far cry from awnings we've owned in the past. Where did this information come from?

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I was just messing with my awning and I find it hard to believe there is 70 lbs of springs. Including the other parts and awning fabric itself I should have felt something very heavy. It's a far cry from awnings we've owned in the past. Where did this information come from?

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I agree, I think I pulled about 35 lbs or so out. Might be different size awning.
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