Hi, been lurking but finally pulled the trigger

[Allan Bornestig]

My Gramma also sipped her coffee trough a sugar cube.Usually the coffee was so hot she poured it on to a saucer and blew on it before sipping.Gramma Johanna raised four strapping
sons.She also smoked a crooked pipe, those old Swedes were a lot tougher than todays Swedes.Split her own firewood too, I must have been about five years old when I saw that.1943.

[gbaglo]

Originally Posted by Allan Bornestig

Gramma Johanna raised four strapping sons.

My middle name is Johan. Daughter's is Johanna. Grandson's is Johan.

[Anachr0n]

Originally Posted by BigSwede

Hello, fellow lurker!

Me too lurker. Biding my time and eyeing retirement. I’m still a ways out, according to my mortgage balance.
I also agree they are missing out on the 13-14 foot market that can be towed by smaller vehicles. I wonder how many 13’s Scamp and Armadillo are moving.

[BigMac95]

Slim Potato is the best. I love all his short little piffy videos!

[BigSwede]

Originally Posted by Anachr0n

Me too lurker. Biding my time and eyeing retirement. I’m still a ways out, according to my mortgage balance.
I also agree they are missing out on the 13-14 foot market that can be towed by smaller vehicles. I wonder how many 13’s Scamp and Armadillo are moving.

I do find it a little odd that Escape has abandoned the small camper sector, they certainly seem like a competitive product. The 15A is 1,600 pounds, which is only a little more than a typical 13 foot, and seems like a much more spacious and desirable camper.

[gbaglo]

It's not that odd when you realize that a 15' costs almost as much to build as a 17' and yet people expect to pay significantly less for it.

[BigSwede]

Hmmm, makes you wonder how Scamp and Casita manage it.

[Donna D.]

Originally Posted by BigSwede

Hmmm, makes you wonder how Scamp and Casita manage it.

They do it because they're pretty basic trailers. Check out the options. Very few. It's like you want A/C or a furnace.

Someone posted in a Facebook group when they contacted Casita about their WANTS for options (12 volt, etc.) and the Casita office person told them to contact Escape!

[BigSwede]

Yes, but that's not really the point. Whether basic or not, they manage to make a living selling a range of trailers that includes 13' and larger. They must have the same challenge of production costs versus unit size as Escape did, but they manage somehow.

But it really doesn't matter. If Escape has a waiting list, they can make more money per unit selling the larger ones, so I really can't fault them.

[John in Santa Cruz]

Originally Posted by BigSwede

Hmmm, makes you wonder how Scamp and Casita manage it.

Casitas have a much cheaper build quality, there's far less woodwork inside, they are single wall fiberglass with glued shag carpet lining, the cabinetry is largely fiberglass moldings, they use really cheap hinges and door latches (said latches being very prone to failure). smaller cheaper windows with no double pane options, smaller cheaper fridges, smaller cheaper stoves, no oven option, etc etc.

[Bobbie54]

I think the 13s and 15s make good entry-level trailers but the fact is that people will go to Escape from any of the fiberglass trailers so there really isn't a big need to offer an entry level one in the brand.

[BigSwede]

What was the price difference between Escape and other brands when they were building 13/15 footers?

[sherminator]

Outback, Armadillo, and the others have the smaller segment well covered. Escape has figured what their niche is and seems to have all the business they can handle. Personally, I would rather Escape focus on what they are doing now, and improve it.

[Jean]

Welcome to Escape with your 15A! I had a 13B for 5 years and last year graduated to 17B - perfect for me.

[BigSwede]

Originally Posted by Jean

Welcome to Escape with your 15A! I had a 13B for 5 years and last year graduated to 17B - perfect for me.

Thanks1