New awning - Escape Trailer Owners Community
RV News RVBusiness 2021 Top 10 RVs of the Year, plus 56 additional debuts and must-see units → ×

Go Back   Escape Trailer Owners Community > Escape Community > New Member Introductions
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 08-26-2016, 10:58 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Wellsboro, Pennsylvania
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 103
New awning

I've ordered a new 5.0TA and need to admit that I have never seen one in person. I'm planning on visiting the fiberglass event in Niagra Falls so maybe I can see a fifth wheel. My question for now is about the new awning. I am very familiar with the Fiamma used on Casita's which is a manual crank out awning. My understand is that the new awning used on Escapes is electrically operated. I think the new style might be more aerodynamic that the older version. What happens if the motor dies when the awning Is deployed? How do folks with the new style awning like it?
Steve
__________________

Starbrightsteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2016, 10:59 AM   #2
Site Team
 
rbryan4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2018 F150 2.7L Ecoboost
Posts: 9,684
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starbrightsteve View Post
I've ordered a new 5.0TA and need to admit that I have never seen one in person. I'm planning on visiting the fiberglass event in Niagra Falls so maybe I can see a fifth wheel. My question for now is about the new awning. I am very familiar with the Fiamma used on Casita's which is a manual crank out awning. My understand is that the new awning used on Escapes is electrically operated. I think the new style might be more aerodynamic that the older version. What happens if the motor dies when the awning Is deployed? How do folks with the new style awning like it?
Steve
There's a manual override even with the electrical model. I've heard they are going to offer a manual awning if you don't want the motor, but not sure if that's true.

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
__________________

__________________
"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy an RV. And that is pretty close."
rbryan4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2016, 12:12 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
emers382's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Emerson, Manitoba
Trailer: 2016 Escape 5.0TA, 2015 F150 2.7EB
Posts: 1,476
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starbrightsteve View Post
I've ordered a new 5.0TA and need to admit that I have never seen one in person. I'm planning on visiting the fiberglass event in Niagra Falls so maybe I can see a fifth wheel.
Steve
For sure you will see at least one 5.0TA at the Falls Steve. Organizer of the rally Alf has one. There were two there last year.

Adrian
emers382 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2016, 12:19 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
Trailer: 2008 Escape 17b
Posts: 1,892
speaking of the new awning, can the new, electric awning be retrofitted onto an older model escape trailer?
J Mac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2016, 12:49 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: no fixed address, California
Trailer: 2017-21' Escape (sold) Casita 17' (sold)
Posts: 1,328
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Mac View Post
speaking of the new awning, can the new, electric awning be retrofitted onto an older model escape trailer?
I am pretty sure not, due to increased weight up high.

And the wrong shape of indent.

Could be wrong.

Losangeles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2016, 03:22 PM   #6
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Kimberley, British Columbia
Trailer: Sold 2016 17B / looking for another
Posts: 70
Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan4 View Post
There's a manual override even with the electrical model. I've heard they are going to offer a manual awning if you don't want the motor, but not sure if that's true.

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
We signed off on our build sheet last month for a 17B, due to be completed in December 2016...it's the 2017 mold. We specified Manual Awning after Krista told us this is an available but unpublished option for the 2017s.

No idea what manufacturer it is...we don't really care we just don't want the added weight, complexity and battery drain of the power version. No cost adjustment for going manual.

And you cannot change your mind later and switch from a manual awning to a powered one because the mounting hardware is completely different.
__________________
"Doubt, of whatever kind, can be ended by action alone." ...Thomas Carlyle
Canadark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2016, 03:31 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 13,086
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Mac View Post
speaking of the new awning, can the new, electric awning be retrofitted onto an older model escape trailer?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Losangeles View Post
I am pretty sure not, due to increased weight up high.

And the wrong shape of indent.
...
And perhaps more importantly, the older model trailer has reinforced mounting points which suit the awning which came with it. While the new design doesn't need the lower arm mounting points, it does require a much stronger mounting area at the top of the wall. I think that retrofitting the new style would be a major project.
Brian B-P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2016, 05:14 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
Trailer: 2008 Escape 17b
Posts: 1,892
thanks, I was just curious.
J Mac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2016, 05:40 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Hudson, Ohio
Trailer: 2017 Escape 19 "Terrapin"
Posts: 372
Anyone know the weight difference between the new electric awning and the same awning in a manual model?
mcdonner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2016, 05:43 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Wellsboro, Pennsylvania
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 103
New awning

What was wrong with the old awning?
Starbrightsteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2016, 05:45 PM   #11
Site Team
 
rbryan4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2018 F150 2.7L Ecoboost
Posts: 9,684
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starbrightsteve View Post
What was wrong with the old awning?
Nothing. This is just a redesign of the trailer. There's a recess at the top of ther shell for a case style awning. No arms down the sides. Looks sleeker.
__________________
"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy an RV. And that is pretty close."
rbryan4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2016, 05:59 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 13,086
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcdonner View Post
Anyone know the weight difference between the new electric awning and the same awning in a manual model?
Not exactly, but it's just a motor and gearbox... maybe a couple of kilograms (a few pounds). The awning material and arms for the power and manual versions of the same series of awning will weigh the same.
Brian B-P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2016, 06:02 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 13,086
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starbrightsteve View Post
What was wrong with the old awning?
As Robert said, there is nothing really wrong with the awning that has been used, but the redesign of the trailer was an opportunity to go to a new style. In addition to being sleeker because it has no arms running down the side of the trailer, it also avoids issues of interference between the arms and features such as windows and access hatches; in addition, the arms of the original awning had to be custom-bent to fit the shape of the side of the trailer, which would not be required by the new awning type even if the trailer body were the same shape.
Brian B-P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2016, 06:10 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
Jim Bennett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 14,897
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Mac View Post
speaking of the new awning, can the new, electric awning be retrofitted onto an older model escape trailer?
To add to what others said, I know at least in the 19, Reace glassed in an angled piece of plywood from the roof to the bottom of the indent created for the awning, in order to stop the side of the trailer from flexing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starbrightsteve View Post
What was wrong with the old awning?
They worked fine, but the new one should work better (well differently for sure), and looks WAY better with no arms.
__________________
2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
“Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.” — Abraham Lincoln
Jim Bennett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2016, 09:43 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
ReagentGrade's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Houston, Texas
Trailer: '87 Bigfoot 20DLX 5er (sold) - 2017 Escape 5.0 TA: Sep-17
Posts: 516
Yes, I agree that it looks much better... but I also greatly appreciate the fact that it will provide a much better view in the passenger side mirror. The vertical arms in the old style are hard to see around.
ReagentGrade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2016, 09:54 PM   #16
Senior Member
 
Jim Bennett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 14,897
Quote:
Originally Posted by ReagentGrade View Post
Yes, I agree that it looks much better... but I also greatly appreciate the fact that it will provide a much better view in the passenger side mirror. The vertical arms in the old style are hard to see around.
I pretty much always have used towing mirrors for safety, so that was not much of an issue.



Sent from my SM-G935W8 using Tapatalk
__________________
2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
“Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.” — Abraham Lincoln
Jim Bennett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2016, 11:40 PM   #17
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Area 51, New Mexico
Trailer: pondering.....
Posts: 728
Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadark View Post
We signed off on our build sheet last month for a 17B, due to be completed in December 2016...it's the 2017 mold. We specified Manual Awning after Krista told us this is an available but unpublished option for the 2017s.

No idea what manufacturer it is...we don't really care we just don't want the added weight, complexity and battery drain of the power version. No cost adjustment for going manual.

And you cannot change your mind later and switch from a manual awning to a powered one because the mounting hardware is completely different.
please post your build pics when in production,you may have the 1st of this new manual kind awing.....and curious minds want to know more. Thanks in advance...
freespirit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2016, 04:40 AM   #18
Site Team
 
cpaharley2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#4, 2019 Escape21 DejaView pulled by 2014 Ram Hemi/8sp
Posts: 23,194
When powered windows first appeared there was a hesitance to purchase such a luxury, now manual windows are rare.
__________________
Jim
What you get by achieving your goals is not as important as what you become by achieving your goals....
Goethe
cpaharley2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2016, 12:26 PM   #19
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Area 51, New Mexico
Trailer: pondering.....
Posts: 728
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008 View Post
When powered windows first appeared there was a hesitance to purchase such a luxury, now manual windows are rare.
if you are referring to autos, yes... however never had an issue with manual windows except the door handle crank broke once ..it cost only a few bucks. Now with the powered windows you have to practically gut the door to replace the motor. On the last Ford that was about $500 to fix both front door window motors after the warranty was up...even the Ford people said it was made cheap....guess progress these days in autos is defined as convenience rather than being well built and easy to repair.
freespirit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2016, 01:06 PM   #20
Senior Member
 
gbaglo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B - "Toad". 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 15,458
Guess you could always buy a Model T.
__________________

__________________
What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
- Bertolt Brecht
gbaglo is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Escape Trailer Industries or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:34 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.
×