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12-01-2019, 10:48 AM
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#21
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Member
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Snohomish, WA, Washington
Trailer: 2019 21’ Escape
Posts: 43
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Welcome!
We live full time in our 21' and absolutely LOVE it!! Ditto what Red Dog said in that we wouldn't change a thing. We have experienced 18 F the last few overnights and with the spray foam insulation and tank heaters we have had no issues and have stayed very warm inside.
Our Escape is much better quality than other travel trailers we've had in the past and I think it will hold up very nicely to our full time use. Used Escapes really hold their value so in order to get all the options you want you may consider getting a new one.
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12-01-2019, 10:07 PM
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#22
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Abbotsford, British Columbia
Trailer: 2017 Escape 19'
Posts: 113
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventures in Nomadness
We live full time in our 21' and absolutely LOVE it!! Ditto what Red Dog said in that we wouldn't change a thing. We have experienced 18 F the last few overnights and with the spray foam insulation and tank heaters we have had no issues and have stayed very warm inside.
Our Escape is much better quality than other travel trailers we've had in the past and I think it will hold up very nicely to our full time use. Used Escapes really hold their value so in order to get all the options you want you may consider getting a new one.
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Hello ladies! Saw your YouTube video today interviewing Karl. Great job and lots of exciting things ahead for Escape trailers!
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12-02-2019, 06:51 AM
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#23
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: alpharetta, Georgia
Trailer: 2014 21' Escape
Posts: 495
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I would agree with what others said I don't think there is a trailer manufacturer that will tell you their product is made to full time, yes some are 4 season but that's a different thing.
Anything you live in will need maintenance, even a tent, when it comes to a RV or travel trailer how you use it has a lot to do with how well it survives that use. Are you moving a lot so things get bounced around more, add to that when you move is on paved roads or forest service roads?
I personally see no reason why you could not live full time in an Escape if you wanted to.
Enjoy the journey.
Steve
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12-02-2019, 08:42 AM
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#24
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: ..., New Mexico
Trailer: 2013 Esc19/'14 Silvrado
Posts: 4,194
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RE: Ask the man who owns one....
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Myron
"A billion here, a billion there...add it all up and before you know it you're talking real money." Everett Dirkson
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12-02-2019, 10:00 AM
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#25
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
Trailer: 2013 Escape 21 Classic Number 6, pulled by 2018 Toyota Highlander
Posts: 8,403
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1950?
Hi Myron
Thanks for the picture, without research I’m guessing that your Packard is about a 1950 vintage automobile. We never had any Packards but had a 1950 Buick with similar lines. It was a Special. Black, four door, with a straight 8 engine and Dynaflow transmission. First car I ever drove at 100 mph. But not the last. The Buick slogan back in the day, “When better cars are built, Buick will build them.”
Iowa Dave
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12-02-2019, 10:25 AM
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#26
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Remind me not to let you borrow my 5.0 Mustang........
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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12-02-2019, 10:45 AM
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#27
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oswego, New York
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21C, 2018 Ford F150
Posts: 5,445
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa Dave
Hi Myron
Thanks for the picture, without research I’m guessing that your Packard is about a 1950 vintage automobile. We never had any Packards but had a 1950 Buick with similar lines. It was a Special. Black, four door, with a straight 8 engine and Dynaflow transmission. First car I ever drove at 100 mph. But not the last. The Buick slogan back in the day, “When better cars are built, Buick will build them.”
Iowa Dave
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That's amazing - Exact same car/engine/transmission for my first 100 MPH. But mine was gray.
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12-02-2019, 10:58 AM
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#28
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: ..., New Mexico
Trailer: 2013 Esc19/'14 Silvrado
Posts: 4,194
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My dad bought that Packard brand new. He bought it when he got recalled for Korea. Stationed at Camp Cooke, somewhere near San Louis Obisbo. Made at least 8 round trips from California to New Jersey in it, back in his day, with nothing worse than a flat tire. Claimed that engine was the same one they put in tanks. Drove us back to NJ in it once. After he separated, back home someone stole that swan off the hood.
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"A billion here, a billion there...add it all up and before you know it you're talking real money." Everett Dirkson
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12-02-2019, 11:20 AM
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#29
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
Trailer: 2013 Escape 21 Classic Number 6, pulled by 2018 Toyota Highlander
Posts: 8,403
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Old car memories are a romance that’s just about as good as the romance that occurred in the car. And the embellishment is about as vibrant too. Those big old lead sleds with the big steering wheels, no power steering and straight brakes, and a Sonomatic AM radio (Buicks)...... well they were quite a ride.
The pace of life might have been slower then but pushing those nylon cord tires with the wind coming back through those wing windows is something I doubt I’ll forget.
Iowa Dave
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12-02-2019, 11:44 AM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: ..., New Mexico
Trailer: 2013 Esc19/'14 Silvrado
Posts: 4,194
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On that drive home from California in the Packard what I remember most is us being stuck in heavy traffic in a very dark sandstorm somewhere in Nevada, windows tightly closed, no air conditioning of course. Oh, and seeing my first one-armed bandit at a gas station. Dad was in a hurry but with mom taking turns at the wheel it was still a 5-day drive.
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"A billion here, a billion there...add it all up and before you know it you're talking real money." Everett Dirkson
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12-04-2019, 08:56 AM
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#31
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Hodgenville, Kentucky
Trailer: 2015 Escape 5.0TA
Posts: 4
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Greetings from Kentucky also, we have a 2015 5.0TA and live in central KY. You can PM me for further info.
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12-04-2019, 08:59 AM
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#32
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Hodgenville, Kentucky
Trailer: 2015 Escape 5.0TA
Posts: 4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SunnyandFiona
Hello from Kentucky! In about 4 years, we plan to live full time in our RV. We currently own a truck camper, but have decided that we need a bit more room and comfort for long-term. The Escape appeared in my internet search and we instantly fell in love with the 5.0 TA. Unfortunately, they are nonexistent in our part of the country and internet info is limited. I hope to learn more through this forum. When the time is right, hopefully I can find leads on a good used one.
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We have a 2015 5.0TA and live in central KY, you can PM me for more info.
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12-04-2019, 09:25 AM
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#33
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Western, Kentucky
Trailer: 2020 Northstar
Posts: 3
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Thanks Jeff P. I would like to see one of these in person. We would be up for a road trip, if you are willing to give us a grand tour of yours sometime.
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12-04-2019, 06:30 PM
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#34
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Hodgenville, Kentucky
Trailer: 2015 Escape 5.0TA
Posts: 4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SunnyandFiona
Thanks Jeff P. I would like to see one of these in person. We would be up for a road trip, if you are willing to give us a grand tour of yours sometime.
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SonnyandFiina, sure that would be fine. Currently she is in the RV Shed on our property. Someone is always here.
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12-05-2019, 06:51 AM
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#35
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Lancaster, Pennsylvania
Trailer: E 21 2019 Tow Vehicle: 2019 4Runner Limited
Posts: 756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa Dave
Considering some less fortunate souls in my home town in Eastern iowa where temps routinely drop below zero in the winter, “full time” under bridges and interstate overpasses, obviously full timing to most means a high degree of comfort.......all the time. Can you imagine sleeping in a brush pile, along a creek in the dead of winter with only a sleeping bag and a couple of blankets?
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Point well taken. I had business that took my to NYC during December. Witnessed many suffering people - most with mental illnesses huddled over grates that emitted steam or between 2 corners to avoid the cutting wind. And this on Lexington, 3rd, and 5th avenue.
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We are coming up on the time of year where Allied soldiers fought the Battle of the Ardennes 75 years ago. Compared to that endeavor, very few of us know discomfort, camping or otherwise.
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Amen. I recently read Jeff Shaara's "No Less Than Victory" (nearly non-stop) which is about the counteroffensive in the Ardennes forest know popularly as the Battle of the Bulge. Talk about adversity and courage...
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12-05-2019, 07:23 AM
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#36
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Santa Rosa County, Florida
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 Tow: 2024 Toyota Tundra
Posts: 3,114
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When I bought my trailer in 2014 I emailed ETI to ask if it was suitable for full-time use. I got a reply saying no-- the trailer needs to "air out" on occasion. To me this implied that the high humidity from constant occupation would damage its interior somehow. And if I recall correctly, full-time use would void the trailer's warranty.
However, I have lived in my Escape 21 for up to six months at a time and have not seen any degradation of the interior other than what I have caused from my own clumsiness.
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She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie-- propane
Photos and travelogues here: mikelewisimages.com
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12-05-2019, 07:54 AM
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#37
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Jon V routinely stays out for long periods, perhaps 10 months at a time and then there are several full timers, Fred & Dora to name a few. I' m not aware of any negative responses on the full timing issue.
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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12-05-2019, 09:14 AM
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#38
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,148
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Lewis
When I bought my trailer in 2014 I emailed ETI to ask if it was suitable for full-time use. I got a reply saying no-- the trailer needs to "air out" on occasion. To me this implied that the high humidity from constant occupation would damage its interior somehow. And if I recall correctly, full-time use would void the trailer's warranty.
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Verbiage in the Owner's Manual stresses that full-time use may reduce warranty protection. I think this is just flexible language that protects them from someone misusing the trailer and trying to get every little thing covered under warranty. As a practical matter I'm not exactly sure how they would know you full time or not unless you disclosed it. Also what is the exact definition of full-time? All year round? More than 6 months per year? Also chapter 2 is titled "Effects of Prolonged Occupancy" with some great tips for controlling condensation.
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12-11-2019, 09:03 PM
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#39
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Courtenay, British Columbia
Trailer: Escape19 2016
Posts: 50
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I've been living fulltime in my 19' for almost two years on Vancouver Island and I absolutely love it! We get snow here in the winter but it usually doesn't last long. I have a heated water hose, and I installed a heater on the black tank and the black tank elbow. I have a small circulating-oil heater inside which is quiet and keeps the trailer warm. When I ordered my Escape, I added thermal windows and extra insulation to the build list. Soon after I took possession I washed and polished the exterior and that makes it much easier to clean. Once in a while we lose power at this RV park, but I'm more comfortable in my trailer than I was in my house - I can still cook, drink cold beer, stay warm, and read. Appliances in houses are not long-lasting either, so I won't be disappointed if I have to replace something in a few years. I keep the fan on almost all the time and keep the window in the back open a bit so that helps reduce condensation. And I roast vegetables - less steam : )
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12-11-2019, 09:08 PM
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#40
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,210
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barb Hunt
I've been living fulltime in my 19' for almost two years on Vancouver Island and I absolutely love it! We get snow here in the winter but it usually doesn't last long. I have a heated water hose, and I installed a heater on the black tank and the black tank elbow. I have a small circulating-oil heater inside which is quiet and keeps the trailer warm. When I ordered my Escape, I added thermal windows and extra insulation to the build list. Soon after I took possession I washed and polished the exterior and that makes it much easier to clean. Once in a while we lose power at this RV park, but I'm more comfortable in my trailer than I was in my house - I can still cook, drink cold beer, stay warm, and read. Appliances in houses are not long-lasting either, so I won't be disappointed if I have to replace something in a few years. I keep the fan on almost all the time and keep the window in the back open a bit so that helps reduce condensation. And I roast vegetables - less steam : )
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Good for you ! Sounds like you are happy with your choices ! Pat
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