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Old 11-08-2013, 11:08 AM   #1
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Currently a Casita 17' SD owner. Previously a 16' Casita owner. Due to the poor insulation (or lack of) in the Casita I'm contemplating an Escape.
Please advise on the insulation of the Escape. I note that it has 3/8" of foam overhead. What does it have on the sides & bottom.
I heat with a combination of a Wave 3 & the furnace set to the low 60's. I'm a light sleeper, and the furnace is just plain to noisy. With hook ups, I use a 1500 watt (5000 btu) heater which works well.
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:44 AM   #2
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Welcome to the site. You are looking at a great product with Escape Trailers.

The vinyl covered insulation is 3/8" thick covering the ceiling and the walls. You can get another layer of insulation installed as an option, something that most folks do, as it helps in both hot and cold climates.

There is no insulation in the floor, unless you opt for the sprayed on insulation underneath. I added 5/8" of cork for insulation and warmth on the tootsies.

The furnace is not real quiet, that is for sure. I too am a light sleeper, but has sorta gotten used to it. We set ours at 8-9°C at night. We too use a small 120V cube heater on the rare occasion we are connected to the grid, and find it way quieter.
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Old 11-08-2013, 12:27 PM   #3
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I'm probably going to be in the minority here, but want to add my opinion. There is only so much that can be done to single wall fiberglass trailers. Casita, Scamp and Escape have all taken a similar approach which is to glue something to the wall to insulate it. You are already familiar with your Casita, which insulates (carpets) the entire shell before adding anything. Escape is similar but only insulates down to seat areas etc UNLESS you order the added insulation and then Reflectix is added in lower seat areas, etc. Escape also has to cut the insulation around the mounting boards inside which sometimes leaves gaps, e.g. in the overhead cupboards. Scamp and Casita rivet through the insulation to mount inside items. I also found that the outside wall below my fridge has neither Reflectix nor the vinyl foam, so there are areas which remain uninsulated. If insulation is the ONLY reason you are considering an Escape it is simply going to be easier to turn the heater up when it gets cold in your Casita because that is what we do in our Escape. If, on the other hand, you want custom features, a more aesthetic interior, more room, then definitely look at the Escape. A much better insulated fiberglass trailer is the Bigfoot which is a double wall product also made in B.C. BUT you will pay $14,000 more for a comparably equipped trailer. I can buy a lot of propane for $14K! Just my thoughts.
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Old 11-08-2013, 01:56 PM   #4
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Another aspect of Escape's insulation is the thermopane window option, which I recommend for insulation and noise reduction. My trailer does not have insulation around the bathroom module insert. If I were ordering a trailer I would ask about adding it if it is not standard these days.
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Old 11-08-2013, 03:48 PM   #5
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I noticed last week in New Hampshire that the Escape furnace fan is WAY quieter than the one in our 2006 FD.

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Old 11-08-2013, 06:10 PM   #6
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lkg907, we had some Escape owners who had owned a Casita tell us that there was a big difference between the two and that the Casita was not insulated as far as they were concerned. They thought the Escape was much better on that score. They had the Escape insulation with thermal windows.
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