We were going to buy a 17 but got a 19 instead...

[caddoster]

... now the more than one year wait begin...

Currently we have a customized off-road trailer (w/ 2007 FJ Cruiser) can't wait to get some walls...

[Greg A]

Congrats and welcome to the 19ers!

[Marry]

Awesome!! You gonna love it!!!

[AKCamper]

Cool, now the fun begins deciding exactly which options to get. We had a ball reading the forum and making those decisions.

[Ron in BC]

Originally Posted by caddoster

... now the more than one year wait begin...

Currently we have a customized off-road trailer (w/ 2007 FJ Cruiser) can't wait to get some walls...

You're not alone. We like "small as possible" and had decided the 17 was perfect for us. Went to ETI to put down the deposit and noticed a 19 beside the 17 demo unit. Almost didn't even bother to look inside. But we did....... and are glad we did as it has proven to be perfect for our needs.

Ron

[flatlandreader]

Enjoy. We also put deposit down on a 17 and within a few days, upgraded to the 19. We're less than a month away from build sheet deadline. the time will fly!

[Slickheadhunter]

I measured the inside length of my 17 and it was 13ft and either. 3 or 4 inches can't recall. So I imagine the 19ft should be around 15ft 3 or 4 inches.so technically I have a 13ft trailer and the 19's are 15ft trailers.

[hughharden]

Originally Posted by caddoster

... now the more than one year wait begin...

Currently we have a customized off-road trailer (w/ 2007 FJ Cruiser) can't wait to get some walls...

Congrats, I have a 2016 19 and tow with a 2007 FJ Cruiser. It tows it pretty well. You will definitely need the WDH, I got away without on my 17B but no way with the 19.

[Brian B-P]

Originally Posted by Slickheadhunter

I measured the inside length of my 17 and it was 13ft and either. 3 or 4 inches can't recall. So I imagine the 19ft should be around 15ft 3 or 4 inches.so technically I have a 13ft trailer and the 19's are 15ft trailers.

Published specs (probably all for first-generation bodies, probably don't change for this year's second generation):

• Escape 17: overall length = 17'-8"; body length = 13'-8"
• Escape 19: overall length = 19'-6"; body length = 15'-8"
• Escape 21: overall length = 21'-4"; body length = 17'-4"

Those are outside body lengths, but with single-wall fiberglass construction the interior length isn't much less. The four-foot difference between body length and overall length is roughly three feet of tongue plus one foot of rear bumper and spare tire.

Most of the trailer industry identifies trailers by body length (or deck length in the case of flat-deck cargo trailers), not by overall length, so the Escape 17', 19' and 21' would be 14-foot, 16-foot, and 17-foot models (assuming rounding to the nearest foot), respectively. Among moulded fiberglass travel trailers, overall length is more commonly used.

[hughharden]

Originally Posted by Brian B-P

Published specs (probably all for first-generation bodies, probably don't change for this year's second generation):

• Escape 17: overall length = 17'-8"; body length = 13'-8"
• Escape 19: overall length = 19'-6"; body length = 15'-8"
• Escape 21: overall length = 21'-4"; body length = 17'-4"

Those are outside body lengths, but with single-wall fiberglass construction the interior length isn't much less. The four-foot difference between body length and overall length is roughly three feet of tongue plus one foot of rear bumper and spare tire.

Most of the trailer industry identifies trailers by body length (or deck length in the case of flat-deck cargo trailers), not by overall length, so the Escape 17',19' and 21' would be 14-foot, 16-foot, and 17-foot models (assuming rounding to the nearest foot), respectively. Among moulded fiberglass travel trailers, overall length is more commonly used.

I can confirm that industry statement. I was in an argument with my storage yard operator who insisted that my Escape 19 was actually 23 feet long.

[Slickheadhunter]

Originally Posted by Brian B-P

Published specs (probably all for first-generation bodies, probably don't change for this year's second generation):

• Escape 17: overall length = 17'-8"; body length = 13'-8"
• Escape 19: overall length = 19'-6"; body length = 15'-8"
• Escape 21: overall length = 21'-4"; body length = 17'-4"

Those are outside body lengths, but with single-wall fiberglass construction the interior length isn't much less. The four-foot difference between body length and overall length is roughly three feet of tongue plus one foot of rear bumper and spare tire.

Most of the trailer industry identifies trailers by body length (or deck length in the case of flat-deck cargo trailers), not by overall length, so the Escape 17',19' and 21' would be 14-foot, 16-foot, and 17-foot models (assuming rounding to the nearest foot), respectively. Among moulded fiberglass travel trailers, overall length is more commonly used.

Yes, was aware of that.
Would be better if the RV industry would just use actual inside dimensions, kinda like how a house lists it's inside square feet(usable area)

[Bluegrouse]

Best choice you made getting that 19 over the 17. The 17 you use the hard cushions from the table bench seats as your bed. The 19 has its own queen sized bed and a dual axle which makes things way better towing no sway what so ever !

[caddoster]

Yes the deciding factor for the 19 is the permanent bed. (previous choice on the 17 would've been the 17A) coming from a utility style trailer anything has more space anyway


It's funny the overall length was discussed... I guess I was not aware of how the trailer length was measured conventionally. Our custom trailer sits at 14-15' overall length so a couple feet more is not too hard to decide. The additional axle going from 17 to 19 took a little longer to ponder tho (but in the end the queen size bed wins anyway).

[dkirk]

We also had a 17 on order, but after seeing both in Osoyoos we changed our order to a 19. The two deciding factors were the permanent bed and the larger dinette. We pick up the new 19 this Friday. Very interested in how it tows vs our Escape 15.