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Old 06-17-2020, 01:12 PM   #1
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21NE off Build Sheet additions

Signed my build sheet yesterday. I thought I would share my off Build Sheet additions for those who may not be aware that these things are possible:
  • CONVERT Rear Permanent Bed to 4-Person Dinette
  • DO NOT INSTALL front table or hardware DO NOT cut corners on front table DO NOT cover front table with Formica SUPPLY ONLY to Cx.
  • FILLER CUSHION - 6" x width to span benches
  • FRAMELESS REAR Thermal Window
  • 12v DROPS ($40 each) 1) Front DS OH Cabinet 2) Front PS OH Cabinet 3) Rear DS OH Cabinet 4) Rear PS OH Cabinet
  • DELETE Bathroom Sink
  • Zamp solar port pre-wire only INSTALL PS front
  • DELETE "21" from front graphics
  • AMBER LENS on Exterior LED Light by entry door.
The biggest item (impact wise - not costwise, which is $360) - was giving up the permanent queen bed and making it a dinette. We do not anticipate full-timing when I retire in 2026, and so far, our two granddaughters come with us almost every time we go camping or traveling. For many reasons, we believe this setup will work best for us. Note - Escape did refuse the ask to make the front dinette into a permanent bed.

Since we have a rear table, I am going to cut up the front table into support boards that can be stored under the benches. I am thinking of maybe using the Formica to make a backsplash. ($0)

The small filler cushion is to give the the U dinette 24" deep seating on all 3 benches. Note: Escape wouldn't cut a support board only 6" wide, so I will do that myself (part of the unfinished table). ($80)

I am getting a manual awning, so my internal debate about the frameless window / awning collision was solved by cutting the baby in two. I am getting framed windows everywhere with the exception of the rear (fixed) window. The rear will be frameless, and able to open. I think the difference in styles won't be too noticeable since it's the only window on the back. ($312)

I want to take a couple of trips to decide where reading lights and 12V/USB outlets should be, so I asked to have only 12V wires left in the 4 upper corners. I will wire my own stuff later.

The bathroom sink delete was to give more room for showering, Kitchen sink is close. It's gross to some people, but fine for us. ($0)

The Zamp port is normally supplied on the D/S front. My belief is that the more open (sunnier) side is the passenger side at most sites. ($0)

The amber lens request and graphics delete were ideas I copied from others on the forum. ($0)

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Old 06-17-2020, 01:46 PM   #2
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Congratulations. sounds like you ordered it just the way you want it.

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Old 06-17-2020, 02:39 PM   #3
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My 21NE build sheet is due Monday...I too am getting the framed windows/manual awning with the awning-style rear window, and awning bath window. They'll look fine, especially as the framed windows have black frames now and not natural aluminum finish. Keeping the bath sink though!

I am also waiting to see where I want lighting, but can always tap off the cabin lights as needed, don't want to pay for the drops.

I'm deferring the AC, and am on the fence as to whether to get the second Maxfan ($280!) or just have the stock crank-open vent.

As I find projects interesting and challenging, I'm not selecting too many "custom" options other than leaving some cabinet doors uninstalled so I can make pullouts.

Everyone's camping habits are different...I'm not installing the propane disconnect as we have a small portable grill that uses the small green LP bottles and sees infrequent use, and I can see us tripping over the propane cord...! I'd rather minimize propane use where possible

We aren't television people so we're leaving all that out, as well as the sound system as there are so many options with wireless streaming devices etc.

I do like the amber porch light, and may do the same for the front and side lights as well - the white lights are brighter but draw insects.
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Old 01-09-2022, 03:40 PM   #4
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Sherminator, your mod "CONVERT Rear Permanent Bed to 4-Person Dinette" is exactly what I am thinking for a new build. How did it turn out and how do you like that and your other mods, especially removal of bathroom sink? How comfortable is the sleeping with both dinettes converting into beds? Would you mind sharing some pics? Thanks.
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Old 01-09-2022, 05:19 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by sherminator View Post

I I am getting framed windows everywhere with the exception of the rear (fixed) window. The rear will be frameless, and able to open. I think the difference in styles won't be too noticeable since it's the only window on the back. ($312)
Well sort of. The door window is frameless also. Hate it, tempted to make a frame for it. But to most folks it's also probably not noticeable. Also, the framed window are sliders except the bathroom window is an awning type. Also don't like it either. But, in the overall scheme of things, small potatoes.

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