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02-10-2019, 05:01 PM
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#41
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Austin, Texas
Trailer: 2019 5.0TA "Junior", 2019 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi
Posts: 1,600
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilola
David, they may not let you into Canada with THAT plate!
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Well, it won't go on the trailer until after we take delivery in Sumas.....
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David, Mary, and the cats
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02-10-2019, 05:12 PM
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#42
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Tehachapi, California
Trailer: none
Posts: 515
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davidmurphy02
Well, it won't go on the trailer until after we take delivery in Sumas.....
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Yeah, I was thinking of more in your future travels. Look forward to hearing your reports after you pick up your 5.0!
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Greg
Formerly owned a 2007 24' HiLo/ 2003 Tahoe combo. Interested in the 5.0TA
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02-10-2019, 05:22 PM
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#43
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Austin, Texas
Trailer: 2019 5.0TA "Junior", 2019 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi
Posts: 1,600
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Right now I'm starting to get a little nervous about the hitch - no manufacturer has come out with a hitch rail mounting kit for our new 2019 Ram yet....supposedly they are in the works but I've been hearing that for several months. I talked to Trademasters and asked if they would be able to do whatever it took to adapt a universal mounting bracket kit to get rails in our truck if a truck-specific kit isn't available by April, and they said they couldn't say for sure without seeing the truck. So in another month I'll have to start checking with local hitch installers to see about getting rails installed if rail mounting kits still aren't available. This, while we sit here imagining our 5.0TA sitting out on the ETI lot covered with snow....we will definitely be cracking open a bottle of champagne when we finally get to pick it up...and hitch it up!
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David, Mary, and the cats
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02-11-2019, 03:44 PM
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#44
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: East Dover, Vermont
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA!
Posts: 678
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davidmurphy02
Right now I'm starting to get a little nervous about the hitch - no manufacturer has come out with a hitch rail mounting kit for our new 2019 Ram yet....supposedly they are in the works but I've been hearing that for several months. I talked to Trademasters and asked if they would be able to do whatever it took to adapt a universal mounting bracket kit to get rails in our truck if a truck-specific kit isn't available by April, and they said they couldn't say for sure without seeing the truck. So in another month I'll have to start checking with local hitch installers to see about getting rails installed if rail mounting kits still aren't available. This, while we sit here imagining our 5.0TA sitting out on the ETI lot covered with snow....we will definitely be cracking open a bottle of champagne when we finally get to pick it up...and hitch it up!
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Relax 5th wheel rail mounting is not a big deal. I went with a custom kit for two reasons: 1. it tends to be a cleaner and no drill installation and 2.for someone like me who was doing their own install it is more foolproof. My local camper shop puts them in all kinds of trucks and just uses the universal mounting kit...for them no big deal...they do it all the time and know what to expect. As long as you know where the rails are to be mounted(Reese can tell you this) it should be an easy job....again relax!
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02-13-2019, 01:09 PM
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#45
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Bend, Oregon
Trailer: 2018 ESCAPE19
Posts: 198
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Omi
I can't find another mention of this so I will ask it now . . . After we take possession of our new 17B in a few weeks, we need to tow it home to Northern California. Do we need to get some sort of travel permit for Washington and Oregon? . . . or will our export/import documents work ?
Omi
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It totally depends on YOUR State. Our State, Oregon, but only if we are residents required us to get a temporary permit to travel with it before we registered with Oregon for our License plate. Some states will take all those wonderful records provided by Escape and actually give you a license plate before you even get up there. Of course it is unlikely that you will get stopped, but that is a bit beside the point. Oregon will not ticket you for not having a resident's temporary permit when you are not a resident. What does CA require? We decided we wanted to follow the law, so we got our temporary license for Oregon (that is only 10 days if I remember right). We drove from Canada down to Ontario Or to register our trailer with Oregon as we traveled for a long trip out of State. They did our registration, we wrote our check to OR, and they handed us a license for our trailer. (It wasn't that easy - it took an older guy who worked there to sort this out in the small office.) So your choice is to do what CA requires or to hope the paper work is enough - which I agree it probably is for almost all police. Funny twist -- in Oregon they are called vehicles!! Odd
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02-13-2019, 01:41 PM
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#46
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam2004
Funny twist -- in Oregon they are called vehicles!! Odd
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Trailers are vehicles, even if that's not what everyone would expect:
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ve·hi·cle
/ˈvēək(ə)l,ˈvēˌhik(ə)l/
noun
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a thing used for transporting people or goods, especially on land, such as a car, truck, or cart.
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They're just not motor vehicles, or self-propelled (so they're not "automobiles").
This can occasionally be important when reading regulations, because if you ignore anything referring to a "vehicle" you may miss requirements which do apply to trailers.
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02-13-2019, 04:13 PM
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#47
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Interesting they call it a vehicle but yet prohibit you from transporting people inside or with it?
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Jim
Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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02-14-2019, 03:20 AM
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#48
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Interesting they call it a vehicle but yet prohibit you from transporting people inside or with it?
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Yes...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
Quote:
ve·hi·cle...
1.
a thing used for transporting people or goods, especially on land, such as a car, truck, or cart.
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02-14-2019, 09:18 AM
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#49
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Tehachapi, California
Trailer: none
Posts: 515
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Interesting they call it a vehicle but yet prohibit you from transporting people inside or with it?
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Although you can transport people in 5th wheel trailers, at least in California, if certain requirements (such as communications) are met.
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Greg
Formerly owned a 2007 24' HiLo/ 2003 Tahoe combo. Interested in the 5.0TA
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02-14-2019, 10:55 AM
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#50
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Emerson, Manitoba
Trailer: 2016 Escape 5.0TA, 2022 F150 2.7EB
Posts: 1,848
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilola
Although you can transport people in 5th wheel trailers, at least in California, if certain requirements (such as communications) are met.
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Communications - Is that so the driver can call back and ask that the coffee be put on
True story, back in 1980 we rented a motorhome and perhaps we weren't quite as particular then about seatbelts but Beth did make coffee on the go, and lie in the back bed with our one year old!
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Adrian (and Beth)
We are all travellers in the wilderness of this world, and the best we can find in our travels is an honest friend.
Robert Louis Stevenson
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02-14-2019, 11:46 AM
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#51
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Quimper Peninsula, Washington
Trailer: TBD
Posts: 369
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bea
Thank you Steve and h2owmn for your advice on making an appointment with the DMV in Nor Cal on the journey down to register the trailer. Had not thought of this - so, thank you!!
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I have to reinforce this. Being a former 20 year resident of Siskiyou County I can't count the number of times I started at the Yreka DMV and after much frustration ended up at the Mt. Shasta DMV to complete Licensing and registrations.
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Thanks,
~Farther
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09-11-2019, 10:23 PM
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#52
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Member
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: San Francisco, California
Trailer: Escape 2019 19'
Posts: 44
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Will the temporary paperwork from ETI be enough for heading back into B.C. immediately after pickup in Sumas? We were hoping to visit Vancouver for a week immediately after pickup. Then head back to California on our way home.
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09-11-2019, 10:34 PM
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#53
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,744
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I'm not sure what you mean by temporary but many folks do return to BC right away, some to attend the rally.
Once your trailer has crossed the border Southbound it's now a US trailer. No problem coming back into Canada.
Ron
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09-11-2019, 10:37 PM
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#54
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Member
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: San Francisco, California
Trailer: Escape 2019 19'
Posts: 44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
I'm not sure what you mean by temporary but many folks do return to BC right away, some to attend the rally.
Once your trailer has crossed the border Southbound it's now a US trailer. No problem coming back into Canada.
Ron
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Thanks for the quick reply. After returning to BC right away and staying for 7 days, we shouldn’t have any issues returning to Washington right?
I’m curious why ETI requires delivery in Sumas WA for Americans.
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09-11-2019, 10:59 PM
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#55
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,023
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Quote:
Originally Posted by infinity
I’m curious why ETI requires delivery in Sumas WA for Americans.
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Because the trailer needs to be imported into the USA. And by ETI doing it, instead of the buyer, it saves USA buyers money on taxes (which would be reimbursed after the paperwork is completed.) Be grateful ETI is handling all of it.
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Donna D.
Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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09-12-2019, 12:30 AM
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#56
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Member
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Ellijay, Georgia
Trailer: 2019 Escape 21 behind a 2014 Chev Silverado
Posts: 43
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Trailer Towing Laws by State
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
I have zero clue about motor vehicle laws, towing laws, trailer laws, etc. in other states. That's why if I'm referring to any law, process, etc. in Oregon, I try to say... In Oregon...
We can get newbies in the grease if we're not careful. And please, don't post about towing weights/vehicles that are legal in Europe and try to apply it locally
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This is some of the best advise I have seen on the forum. To many times and in the spirit of helpfulness some one posts something that has no relation to the subject at hand.
Donna, and others, I used this web site in July and August traveling back home with our new E21:
https://trailers.com/state-laws/
But be advised that like other things on the Internet what is found there could be out of date and get you in trouble.
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Michael & Elaine
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09-12-2019, 12:37 AM
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#57
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Member
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Ellijay, Georgia
Trailer: 2019 Escape 21 behind a 2014 Chev Silverado
Posts: 43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
So it appears that several east coast states, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Vermont, New York allow you to transfer your plates to a new purchase. Again always check with your home state......
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...add Georgia to the list of allowing the transfer of plates.
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Michael & Elaine
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09-12-2019, 12:52 AM
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#58
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,744
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
Because the trailer needs to be imported into the USA. And by ETI doing it, instead of the buyer, it saves USA buyers money on taxes (which would be reimbursed after the paperwork is completed.) Be grateful ETI is handling all of it.
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Yup, and having just paid the tax that you'd have to pay if you took possession in BC and ETI didn't export it, as Donna said, be grateful ETI handles it that way.
To clarify, once that trailer has been exported from Canada it doesn't matter how soon you return to Canada. Leave Bob's Burgers and come right back if you want to. Once that trailer crosses the border the first time it's a US trailer. It can return anytime without any more paperwork.
Ron
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09-12-2019, 09:03 AM
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#59
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Bend, Oregon
Trailer: 2018 ESCAPE19
Posts: 198
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But, of course, have all of the paperwork that ETI gave you ready to show the US border guards along with your temporary US permit as you then reenter the US later. That makes you legal. I was amused to hear that you absolutely wouldn't have trouble. I know they mean you will be "legal" and you shouldn't have any hassles. And since you are undoubtedly a honest looking couple and won't be nervous, the US border guards probably will wave you right through. Going back in will be a snap - coming back to US should be OK
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09-12-2019, 12:33 PM
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#60
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Galesville, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2017 21 "Blue II" & 2017 Highlander XLE (previously 2010 17B "Blue" & 2008 Tacoma)
Posts: 4,232
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With both our Escape's we re-entered Canada immediately with no problems. The Canadian guard at Sumas just said - "Oh just bought a new Escape I see - we sure see lots of those" Coming back into the US, the boarder guards were not in the least concerned with trailer licenses, etc (we had no trailer license plate as Wisconsin will not issue them in advance) as that is all your state's laws. They didn't even ask to see any of the paperwork for the sale, even though we had it all ready to show them. Wisconsin DMV was another story...
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Eric (and Mary who is in no way responsible for anything stupid I post)
"Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance." George Bernard Shaw
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