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04-15-2022, 08:15 PM
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Senior Member
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Costco Folding Solar Panel Sale - 100W, 200W or 300W
Looks like CostCo has some Massimo folding solar panels on sale in various power outputs up to 300W.
https://www.costco.com/massimo-folda...100793941.html
I've never heard of Massimo, but it looks like they're branding white label products.
Any thoughts if these might be worthwhile?
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04-15-2022, 08:56 PM
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Probably worthwhile
Costco typically sells good products. With their size, they likely have their own testing labs. Good price, but 100W typically goes for around $200.
They do have a stellar return policy.
If the size and set up works for you, they’re worth a shot.
I have no knowledge of the brand.
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04-16-2022, 07:18 AM
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I have been looking at different solar options for our new Bigfoot, sold the Escape with built in solar. The Massimo panels seam to only support their portable battery pack, the description doesn't mention a solar controller. With no charge controller these panels are a no go.
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04-16-2022, 07:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buellfire
I have been looking at different solar options for our new Bigfoot, sold the Escape with built in solar. The Massimo panels seam to only support their portable battery pack, the description doesn't mention a solar controller. With no charge controller these panels are a no go.
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If you have a Escape installed solar panel / charge controller and Zamp port you actually don't want a charge controller on your solar panel.
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04-16-2022, 07:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TTMartin
If you have a Escape installed solar panel / charge controller and Zamp port you actually don't want a charge controller on your solar panel.
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That is true, the built in controller installed by Escape with factory installed solar will control the charge rate and voltage of a separate portable panel. However if you don't have any solar currently installed, a portable panel will need a controller. The description of the Massimo solar panels never mentions a controller, just the portable battery pack, which has a controller built into it.
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04-16-2022, 08:12 AM
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I can't find good tech specs for these panels anywhere. It looks like they don't have built-in charge controllers, but hard to know for sure. My preference is for panels without a built-in charge controller.
I was going to edit my original post with the prices, but can't due to forum restrictions. But here they are:
100W - $150
200W - $260
300W - $320
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04-16-2022, 08:54 AM
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The panels do have some charge control. There are several us-b ports and an android type port on the back all at 5v.. There is another port I can’t identify but it might be used for running the cooler shown in the picture.
There is also a dc output port at 18v. This is what would plug into a solar controller for the trailer batteries. So it would work as a stand alone panel if you have a solar controller or a supplemental panel if you have a port to plug into.
I’m not sure how sophisticated any panel mounted controller would be to get the charging profile you want for various types of batteries. You can get the right controller and plug this panel into it.
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04-16-2022, 09:49 AM
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Unless they made a mistake in their dimensions, the 300 watt unit at 8.27" wide is a miracle product...
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04-16-2022, 10:23 AM
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Lensun
Lensun sells a 100W 3 panel folding portable with a charge controller for around $200. Not a sophisticated controller, but built onto the panel back. I have several of these units, one with and 1 without the controller. They work for me.
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04-16-2022, 11:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TTMartin
If you have a Escape installed solar panel / charge controller and Zamp port you actually don't want a charge controller on your solar panel.
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thats only true if both panels have similar photo-voltaic volt ranges. The 360W rooftop panel I installed runs 36-40V PV, so I could only parallel it with another 36-40V PV panel (yes, I'm using a MPPT controller, of course)
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04-16-2022, 11:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TTMartin
If you have a Escape installed solar panel / charge controller and Zamp port you actually don't want a charge controller on your solar panel.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz
thats only true if both panels have similar photo-voltaic volt ranges.
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The Costco Massimo solar panels are 18 volt, the same voltage as the GoPower solar panels Escape uses.
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04-16-2022, 12:06 PM
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Massimo has a product web page, which covers these folding units plus a rigid 100 watt panel with controller.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilye
Unless they made a mistake in their dimensions, the 300 watt unit at 8.27" wide is a miracle product...
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The Massimo page gives dimensions, and has the same ridiculous width value for the 300 watt unit. My guess is that that it is supposed to be 28.27" (so the listing is missing the first digit), to get a suitable unfolded area.
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04-16-2022, 12:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
Massimo has a product web page, which covers these folding units plus a rigid 100 watt panel with controller.
The Massimo page gives dimensions, and has the same ridiculous width value for the 300 watt unit. My guess is that that it is supposed to be 28.27" (so the listing is missing the first digit), to get a suitable unfolded area.
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I was thinking that might be the thickness of the panels when folded. My 100 watt foldable panel is 2 or 3 inches thick when folded. So a little over 8 inches is about right for a 300 watt folding panel.
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04-16-2022, 02:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TTMartin
I was thinking that might be the thickness of the panels when folded. My 100 watt foldable panel is 2 or 3 inches thick when folded. So a little over 8 inches is about right for a 300 watt folding panel.
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These Massimo units are quite thin. If the 300 watt is wider than the 200 watt, with similar length and number of folds, the two models would be similar in thickness.
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04-16-2022, 05:38 PM
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I can't see in their writings anything saying this would plug into my zamp port.
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04-16-2022, 06:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WanderBred
I can't see in their writings anything saying this would plug into my zamp port.
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The main issue, as I understand it, is whether your Zamp port goes to a charge controller or goes directly to the battery. If the zamp port goes to a charge controller then this panel can be connected. If the zamp port goes directly to the battery, then you need a different panel that has its own controller.
The second issue is whether the 18v and 100w output is compatible with your existing controller. That I can’t answer, but from other responses it appears to be compatible with the Escape system. You would have to confirm that and determine if your controller can handle the additional load.
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04-16-2022, 10:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TTMartin
The Costco Massimo solar panels are 18 volt, the same voltage as the GoPower solar panels Escape uses.
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The 190 watt GoPower panels have the following specs, per the GP website:
Solar cell type Monocrystalline
Output power
190 W
Rated current
9.45 A
Rated DC voltage
20.4 V
The Zamp connector goes to the 30 amp PWM charge controller in the 2021 21 NE we're picking up next month. Escape notes that you should not use a charge controller with an expansion panel connected to the Zamp.
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04-16-2022, 10:38 PM
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The 100 watt Go Power Duralite expansion panel specs:
Output Power
100W
Rated Current
5.06A
Rated Voltage
19.8V
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04-16-2022, 10:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Viajante
The main issue, as I understand it, is whether your Zamp port goes to a charge controller or goes directly to the battery. If the zamp port goes to a charge controller then this panel can be connected. If the zamp port goes directly to the battery, then you need a different panel that has its own controller.
The second issue is whether the 18v and 100w output is compatible with your existing controller. That I can’t answer, but from other responses it appears to be compatible with the Escape system. You would have to confirm that and determine if your controller can handle the additional load.
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They are calling the box that includes USB and DC out ports the "controller". But I'm thinking it's more of a junction box of sorts.
Curious though, it looks like it comes with a decent selection of DC male adaptors. Anyone know if any of these would even fit a zamp port? Not familiar with them.
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04-16-2022, 10:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean2a
They are calling the box that includes USB and DC out ports the "controller". But I'm thinking it's more of a junction box of sorts.
Curious though, it looks like it comes with a decent selection of DC male adaptors. Anyone know if any of these would even fit a zamp port? Not familiar with them.
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This is the type of connector that would fit the Zamp port, Sean.
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