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Old 06-17-2021, 01:02 AM   #1
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Location: Redwood City, California
Trailer: 2017 Escape 19
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2017 Escape 19 -reduced to $30,000 USD. sale pending 7/16

Upsized (not sure it's entirely an upgrade) to a Bigfoot 25RQ and selling my Escape 19.


It's had significant electrical upgrades for extended boondocking with remote work and some battery-powered air conditioner:
(also good for winter/shoulder camping and driveway-docking)
360W solar (2x180W)
Victron MPPT solar controller
Victron Multiplus 3000W hybrid Inverter/charger
5x100Ah Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries

Build sheet options:
6CF fridge w/ fridge fan
2-way water heater
foot flush toilet
winterizing valve
exterior shower on passenger side
2 extra 12V/USB outlets
Progressive EMS surge protector
Removable power cord
air conditioner
Backup camera
Extra insulation
Dual-pane frameless windows
Spray insulation underneath
Drawer under wardrobe closet
Exterior propane quick-connect
Storage box
Equalizer hitch w/ swaybar

Swapped fridge door facade for galvanized steel so fridge magnets work, but I believe I have the original in storage if preferred.

Located in the SF Bay Area (trailer is stored in Antioch, I'm in Redwood City)
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Old 06-17-2021, 01:05 AM   #2
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Hit the max photos per host, so here's another with more. Additional photos of stuff like cabinet closeups and under-bed area available on request.
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Old 06-17-2021, 09:40 AM   #3
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Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: santa rosa, California
Trailer: 2014 Lance 2285
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I would like to see your trailer. Cash buyer from santa rosa. Please call 707-546-1142
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Old 06-17-2021, 12:07 PM   #4
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Join Date: May 2021
Location: Placerville, California
Trailer: 2015 17A
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Hello,

I'm interested in your trailer. Cash buyer from Placerville CA. What % is the tongue weight of the gross trailer weight and where did you locate all 5 battery's.

Thanks Kirk 530 626-1031
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Old 06-17-2021, 06:34 PM   #5
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Not sure on tongue weight - I haven't measured. Overall probably slightly higher than stock battery location. More total weight, but closer to the axles. Batteries are located in the passenger-side dinette bench.
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Old 07-03-2021, 06:28 PM   #6
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Lowering the price - now asking $30,000
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Old 07-03-2021, 11:05 PM   #7
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Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
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Interested in your trailer. Please contact at: sananfan@sasktel.net
We have friends in Redding which isn't too far from your.
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Old 07-04-2021, 04:34 PM   #8
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Solar and electrical install were done by Quality RV Solar (one of AMSolar's suggested installers). I picked most of the components, but ran out of free time and had the install done professionally instead of DIY.

In terms of short on power boondocking.. it depends. There's always ways to use more power. Air conditioner would empty them out in a few hours, and you'd get maybe 1-2 hours of AC time refilled per day from the solar. Or it'll keep up with running the fridge on DC power a lot of the day, but not 24/7. The blower fan and tank heater pads did drain it in the winter one time, but mostly because I'd gotten busy and didn't clear the ice and snow off the roof when it was hitting single digits overnight. Under "normal" camping use (double digit Fahrenheit temperatures, cleared panels, mostly running lights and pump) it'll easily keep up indefinitely.

I carried around a 2000W Honda generator that worked really well with the hybrid inverter (no problem running the AC, and 120A charge rate keeps runtime down), but I ended up only using it twice in a year. Both for air conditioner.
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Old 07-05-2021, 02:20 AM   #9
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The Bigfoot is nice, but not as much nicer as I expected given the price. The Escape is definitely a better value. The Bigfoot's built heavier-duty overall and with a lot more space and features, but less attention to detail and more construction problems. The Escape's had minor problems, but nothing I'd consider a blatant construction or design error, except maybe the stair bolts vibrating loose the first trip. The Bigfoot had several (wire nut with a wire that wasn't in or making contact, screen door assembly wrong/misaligned, poor attachment job on one drawer rail, weird gap in cabinet floor). Not that overall construction quality is bad, but little details and QA can be hit-or-miss.

It's also better insulated than the Escape, but not by nearly as much in practice as it is on paper. Theoretically the 25RQ should take about half as much power to heat as an Escape 19 just based on R-value, but I've found it takes a comparable amount. That's still better, in that it has way more surface area but doesn't take more heat. The skylights and big windows leak a lot of heat, as does the underbody area (which is a bit under-insulated IMO). It's definitely more comfortable overall in very cold weather since the walls don't get as cold, and it has fewer places prone to condensation buildup.

The 25RQ specifically has much, much more room than the E19. The extra width makes a big difference. We were crammed into the 19 and had to basically move things around constantly to make room to do anything. The 25RQ has storage space to spare and there's always some counter or floor space that can be used. The front storage is also absolutely massive.

On the other hand, you do pay for that extra size in towing. It's way less easy to tow and gas mileage is more like 11-12MPG rather than 14-16MPG. It needs either a 3/4-ton truck or the right half-ton compared to the E19 just needing a 3-row SUV. It's also just a fair bit harder to squeeze around corners or through small gaps - you have to swing wider and do more to take into account where the tail will go.
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Old 07-06-2021, 11:34 AM   #10
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Join Date: May 2021
Location: Fort Collins, Colorado
Trailer: 2014 Chalet XL1930
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Interested - please contact me

Hi, would you be able to get an updated tongue weight and trailer weight with the added batteries. I don't have the biggest of TVs. If you would do that I'd be on the road to pick it up - cash. Thanks. Matt (pointerfan@yahoo.com)
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Old 07-06-2021, 11:35 AM   #11
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I have a pending sale as of last night, but if that falls through I can try to get it weighed.
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Old 07-07-2021, 12:53 PM   #12
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Location: South Lake Tahoe, California
Trailer: 2021 TBD
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Cash buyer from Tahoe

I am interested in your trailer. I'll be in SF tomorrow and could check it out tomorrow evening. Sent you a PM. Let me know if we can get together to check it out. Thx Tad
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Old 07-15-2021, 07:49 PM   #13
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Hi there,
Is your trailer still for sale?
Thanks
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Old 07-15-2021, 07:50 PM   #14
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Sale still pending - potential buyer is remote, so actually closing will take a while, but it's likely sold.
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Old 07-20-2021, 06:26 PM   #15
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Trailer is sold (assuming payment clears, but that looks very likely)
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