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08-08-2019, 10:32 AM
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#21
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Delta, British Columbia
Trailer: 2017 17B
Posts: 7
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Yes, a cupboard door could be added to the end, but we have "milk crates" inside the seat to keep everything tidy, so accessing the end wouldn't be beneficial for us. The seat is easy to lift to get out what is needed.
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08-08-2019, 10:37 AM
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#22
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Placerville, California
Trailer: 2018 Escape 17A double dinette
Posts: 1,520
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I have a 2018 17A w front and rear dinettes. I asked for a door on the short face of the dinette bench and it was done...I forget the charge, but the build sheet says, I think, "door on ps/front bench same as a 19". It's much easier to use than the outside hatch which was the alternative, or lifting up the bench, since my bed is set across the front half of that dinette. I keep one of those grabber things in there so I can reach what's in the far side if need be.
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08-08-2019, 10:41 AM
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#23
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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I have four collapsible plastic containers under our 17B rear bed/dinette. I am unable to find branding anywhere on them, but I got them at a Lordco. Perfect fit.
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09-22-2019, 08:50 PM
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#24
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Carefree, Arizona
Trailer: None currently
Posts: 2
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I like the idea of the milk crates. Glad to know they fit well in there. Thanks for the tip.
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09-22-2019, 09:18 PM
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#25
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: London, Ontario
Trailer: 2020 Escape 19
Posts: 1,120
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Get The Permanent Bed
We had a 2007 Escape 17B. We found sleeping on the cushions uncomfortable. We added a memory foam topper, it was a pain to move around. We used to put it on the front dinette when not in use. We priced a custom mattress available locally and it was like $650. At the time I don't believe Escape had a mattress for the 17b, it was a while ago.
Get the permanent bed, it will be way more comfortable .
Some have posted pics of long drawers under the 17 permanent bed. Nice.
I have recently seen a few other 17 versions.
No wardrobe with just the 2 seat dinette.
The 2 person dinette with tall wardrobe going up to the upper cabinets. My favorite.
And the previously shown 2 person dinette with the long bench to the door.
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Had 2 Escapes, 17b, 19, went back to a pop up that fit in the garage. 2018 Coachman Clipper RBST HW AFrame
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09-22-2019, 11:57 PM
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#26
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Pitt Meadows, British Columbia
Trailer: 21C 2023. Previous 2019 17B
Posts: 80
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We got our new 17B with permanent bed in March and are pleased with it. I find the mattress better than our home mattress, my husband disagrees. It's not easy to get the bottom sheet on, but once it's on it stays put! I can crawl under the doors to access the hot water tank shut off. We store a few things under the bed that we access through the trailer in bins and we use the manual awning rod to pull them out. We also have the outside hatch to store hoses etc that we use a lot. I don't think we could store too much heavy stuff under the bed or the trailer would be unbalanced as the mattress is heavy too. The only negative thing I see is that the counter extension is shorter and more difficult to use. I don't think the 17B is big enough for more than two people and would only take someone else along with an extra tent or if it was for a very short time and we could eat outside. We have used the trailer for 2 month long trips and a couple of shorter trips so far.
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09-23-2019, 07:04 AM
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#27
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Burlington, Vermont
Trailer: 2014 17b/ 2012 Chevy Colorado
Posts: 736
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If you choose the permanent bed do you lose the storage one one side and easy access to the converter and water heater on the other? We didn't order the permanent bed but are content with the stock cushions plus a custom cut 3" topper. We roll it up to access storage.
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09-23-2019, 07:51 AM
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#28
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Trailer: Escape 17B, July 2019
Posts: 347
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We picked up a new 17B in July. Lived in it for a month. Very pleased with it. Mattress is very comfortable. We have two long plastic storage bins that slide under the bed from the inside. Plus access the storage from outside hatch on passenger side. The converter was moved to front passenger bench seat. Water tank is still in the same place. The only reason to access the hot water tank would be to replace it I think. That wouldn't be hard to do. Everything else to use the hotwater tank can be done from the access panel on the outside of the trailer.
It's a two person trailer.
Bob
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09-23-2019, 09:57 AM
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#29
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanark Camper
The only reason to access the hot water tank would be to replace it I think.
Bob
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You will need to access the water heater bypass valves in order to winterize.
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09-23-2019, 10:32 AM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Trailer: Escape 17B, July 2019
Posts: 347
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
You will need to access the water heater bypass valves in order to winterize.
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Yes they can be reached from the two front doors or of course the large access door under the mattress.
Bob
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09-23-2019, 10:38 AM
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#31
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Trailer: Escape 17B, July 2019
Posts: 347
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Here are the bins we used, they just fit. A 12" milk crate is 1/2" too tall to go through the cabinet doors. We found these two bins worked well for our clothes. Did not move around under the bed. We do have a few other items under there so they all seem to keep each other positioned. They were purchased at the Walmart near ETI.
Bob
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09-23-2019, 11:00 AM
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#32
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Springfield, Missouri
Trailer: 2015 Escape 17B "L'Escaboose" with 2021 Ford F150 XLT
Posts: 394
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To each his own, but I cannot imagine not having the big dinette in the back of the trailer - for workspace and for sitting with a view! The table is an extension of the kitchen for me to make up for the lack of counter space in a 17B. I suppose I could do a lot of the work outside but here's what my kitchen looked like for last year's Thanksgiving dinner cooked mostly outside in three Dutch ovens.
I have the bunk bed option in the front and the dogs love sleeping on the lower bunk and I use the upper bunk for storage.
I use the RV super bag system for the bed which all rolls up in a bag that I store either on one corner of the dinette seat or under the table on top of 7 gallon jugs I use to fetch more water. In the photo the pillows are out but I usually stuff them in the bedding bag too.
I do understand if people need a more comfortable mattress. I'm not picky about a mattress and the seat cushions work for me. As long as I have a soft pillow!
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09-23-2019, 04:32 PM
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#33
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Whidbey Island, Washington
Trailer: 2020 Escape 17B "Voyager"
Posts: 2,683
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanark Camper
We picked up a new 17B in July. Lived in it for a month. Very pleased with it. Mattress is very comfortable. We have two long plastic storage bins that slide under the bed from the inside. Plus access the storage from outside hatch on passenger side. The converter was moved to front passenger bench seat. Water tank is still in the same place. The only reason to access the hot water tank would be to replace it I think. That wouldn't be hard to do. Everything else to use the hotwater tank can be done from the access panel on the outside of the trailer.
It's a two person trailer.
Bob
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What kind of storage bins and where did you find them?
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11-16-2019, 10:09 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Sharpsburg, Georgia
Trailer: 2005 Scamp 16 SD (sold), 2020 Escape 19
Posts: 261
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Quote:
Originally Posted by outwiththedogs
Hi all,
We have a 17B on order and are wondering how folks feel about either keeping the large dinette in bed mode or opting for a permanent bed.
Catherine
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Hi Catherine,
We are currently considering a 17B and are curious which option you ended up choosing, and how you like it now that you have it?
Thanks,
John and Marilyn
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11-17-2019, 07:05 AM
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#35
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Tucson, AZ, Arizona
Trailer: gone, 19 and 21 & 17B with 5.0 now. gone
Posts: 790
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17 w/permanent bed
We like it but bed a little small for 3 of us.
Azjack, Nancy and Murphy
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07-19-2020, 04:36 PM
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#36
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Sharpsburg, Georgia
Trailer: 2005 Scamp 16 SD (sold), 2020 Escape 19
Posts: 261
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azjack
We like it but bed a little small for 3 of us.
Azjack, Nancy and Murphy
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I see you have had the 21, 19, and 17. Which has been your favorite?
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