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Old 06-08-2020, 02:04 PM   #1
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17b Storage box- what do you put in it?

Well, I'm pulling the trigger on a 17b. I had figured it would be a few years down the road but decided to move it up.

So- wavering on a storage box. I have a pickup (Ridgeline). So have somewhere to put stuff. Wondering how much I want a storage box. Also, it would be nice to put a rack for wire exercise pens for the dogs on the tongue instead, if I figure out who can build me one.

Anyway, would like to hear what 17b owners keep in theirs. IF you don't have it have you missed it, if you do, would you get it again?
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Old 06-08-2020, 02:38 PM   #2
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We find the storage box on our 17B to be extremely useful. We are able to keep virtually everything that we used outside the trailer in it. This includes: leveling blocks, wheel chocks, water hoses, 2 camp chairs, Anderson Leveler, power cord, and misc. items. Our TV is a Toyota 4Runner, so we could carry these items in it, but having them all readily available in the storage box works great for us.

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Old 06-08-2020, 02:51 PM   #3
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Add a Magma BBq to what Dave said for us. One of my most valuable options.
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Old 06-08-2020, 03:18 PM   #4
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Bobby:
We find the storage box on our 17B to be extremely useful. We are able to keep virtually everything that we used outside the trailer in it. This includes: leveling blocks, wheel chocks, water hoses, 2 camp chairs, Anderson Leveler, power cord, and misc. items. Our TV is a Toyota 4Runner, so we could carry these items in it, but having them all readily available in the storage box works great for us.

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What kind of camp chairs fit into it? Do you know the box dimensions?
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Old 06-08-2020, 03:45 PM   #5
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What kind of camp chairs fit into it? Do you know the box dimensions?
very small ones..........
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Old 06-08-2020, 06:23 PM   #6
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We keep hoses, chocks, 2x8 leveler boards, WiFI antenna and cable; propane hoses for camp stove, a box w/water press. gauge, pressure regulator, water filter, 90° angle hose connectors; also a bag of plastic fittings to mate with odd campground waste connections. Also, our front porch mat and the 9x12 plastic ground mat for under the awning. Basically, everything potentially dirty.
THE most important item is that the storage box protects your trailer from damage. We have a crack in the box corner as a result of an 'alligator' hit. ('Alligator' meaning a piece of semi-trailer tire tread in the road.)
That would have been a hole in the corner of our fiberglass Escape.
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Old 06-08-2020, 07:29 PM   #7
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I have a 19 and opted not to get the front storage box. It’s an option I now wish I had gotten and am planning a trip back to Chilliwack with the hopes I can get one. All the stuff others have mentioned I have to store under the bed, under the dinette seats, or put in the bathroom. There is limited storage in these small trailers, and being able to stow the outside stuff where it is readily available, and thereby opening up more area for your inside stuff, seems ideal.

I understand what you’re saying about your X-pens though. Fortunately, your trailer will have a receiver on the back that would absolutely take a storage shelf, which I think would work great for your X-pens.
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Old 06-08-2020, 07:56 PM   #8
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Bobbie, as others have noted, I too think the box is one of the most functional options. I carry the following:
Outdoor mats
Dog mats/tie outs
Power cord
Water hose
Chocks
Levelers
Collapsible broom & rake
2 collapsible chairs
Small propane cylinders
Outside shower hose
Rags for cleaning

It holds a lot all in a readily accessible space.

Also have the optional passenger rear access door. Keep tools, distilled water (batteries), gloves, cookstove & misc stuff in here
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Old 06-08-2020, 07:58 PM   #9
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I have a 19 and opted not to get the front storage box. It’s an option I now wish I had gotten and am planning a trip back to Chilliwack with the hopes I can get one. All the stuff others have mentioned I have to store under the bed, under the dinette seats, or put in the bathroom. There is limited storage in these small trailers, and being able to stow the outside stuff where it is readily available, and thereby opening up more area for your inside stuff, seems ideal.

I understand what you’re saying about your X-pens though. Fortunately, your trailer will have a receiver on the back that would absolutely take a storage shelf, which I think would work great for your X-pens.
I have a cargo rack but really don't want the extra length in the garage (or to have to remove and replace every trip)- though maybe I can have a shorter rack made.
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Old 06-09-2020, 06:36 AM   #10
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very small ones..........
We have chairs similar to these that are small enough to transport on bikes, or even in a back pack. This choice exemplifies a design principal we employ in the 17 b that is "Gear should have multple uses" as there just isn't that much space

https://www.cliqproducts.com/product...BoCwsUQAvD_BwE
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Old 06-09-2020, 02:13 PM   #11
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For trailer stability, cargo carried behind the rear bumper is bad. How bad depends on how much mass, how far back, and how the rest of the trailer is loaded.
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Old 06-09-2020, 02:42 PM   #12
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We use Ketmit chairs, you can fit them pretty much anywhere but need to be assembled before use. I leave them together in the truck if the weather is good and I'm not going far.
https://www.kermitchair.com/
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Old 06-10-2020, 08:24 AM   #13
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What is the tongue weight of the 17b with full propane tanks and nothing really heavy in the storage box?
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Old 02-07-2022, 03:30 PM   #14
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I was wondering if anyone has any photos of the inside of the front storage box, either empty with only the batteries or full of stuff.

I’m also planning on buying the escape box or building one to fit.
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Old 02-07-2022, 06:14 PM   #15
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Hey. This is a new 17 box. I am not sure if they all are the same. An fyi. The red plastic bins from the kids section at ikea fit like they were made for it. I use two of them to sort and keep things in somewhat of an order.
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Old 02-07-2022, 06:16 PM   #16
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Old 02-07-2022, 06:21 PM   #17
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Hopefully someone will step in with the numbers for a 17b but these numbers for my 17a will tell you that you shouldn't expect to be below these.

2020 17a no A/C, dual flooded 6V batteries.

Escape claimed shipping weight: 2552 lbs

What I measured at CAT scale on return trip from camping with nothing in fresh water or grey tank. One full propane and about 40% in the other. Almost empty frig. Minimal clothing and bedding and typical chairs and lightweight camping supplies.

Trailer Axle 2760 lbs
Tongue Weight 460 lbs
Combined 3220 lbs

I didn't weight every little item I was carrying but I did weight several of the heavier items and I could not come up with 668 lbs of stuff that I was hauling in the trailer. I question the stated shipping weight. Some day when bored, I'll empty it out then weight to find the real number.

I have since moved my tools and a few other items to the dinette under-seat storage area to lighten the tongue. I was carrying 65 lbs of stuff in the storage box and now have that down to 35 lbs of leveling and jacking pads, full length broom, dual folding 5 ft ladder and water hookup supplies. All of my loose items like the bedding and chairs were stack in the back dinette meaning above or slightly behind the axle so I was a bit surprised to see that I had more than 14% on the tongue.

I hope that helps.
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Old 02-07-2022, 06:40 PM   #18
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We use Ketmit chairs, you can fit them pretty much anywhere but need to be assembled before use. I leave them together in the truck if the weather is good and I'm not going far.
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Escape claimed shipping weight: 2552 lbs

What I measured at CAT scale on return trip from camping with nothing in fresh water or grey tank. One full propane and about 40% in the other. Almost empty frig. Minimal clothing and bedding and typical chairs and lightweight camping supplies.

Trailer Axle 2760 lbs
Tongue Weight 460 lbs
Combined 3220 lbs

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How did you determine your tongue weight for the above?


Separate weight pads at the CAT scale, or a Sherline approach?
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Old 02-07-2022, 07:24 PM   #20
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Separate pads(3).

I just supplied the summary. There were two weightings with the first being the three axles of the tow vehicle with trailer connected. I then disconnect the trailer leaving it in a parking spot weighing only the TV's two axles. Here are the numbers

#1
Steer Axle 2520 lbs
Drive Axle 3060 lbs
Trailer Axle 2760 lbs
Gross 8340 lbs

#2
Steer Axle 2720 lbs
Drive Axle 2400 lbs
Gross 5120 lbs

#1 Gross - #2 Gross = Trailer Gross
8340 - 5120 = 3220

Trailer Gross - Trailer Axle = Tongue
3220 - 2760 = 460
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