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Old 02-24-2014, 10:48 AM   #1
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I am considering a 21. At a local RV show this weekend we sat in a bunch of trailers and only a couple had tolerably comfortable benches. How are the Escape bench seats?
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Old 02-24-2014, 10:58 AM   #2
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Boy, this is very subjective.

Depends on your build, expectations and what you NEED for creature comforts.

The only two trailers I've ever been inside where I was totally comfortable sitting for a period of time, was a Casita FD and a monster 5th wheel with leather recliners.

I'm going to have pillows made for my new 5er... so I could lounge.
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We had a Rockwood Class C with the couch that turned into a bed plus two swivel armchairs-pretty nice. The cushions on our Escape double as mattress foundations so they are by nature dense like those in a VW Westfalia. We use a foam topper(some better than others) for sleeping. For reading and lounging we sit sideways and prop a pillow behind us. That's only when we can't be outside where we prefer to be anyways.
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Like Donna said, it all depends on your needs, and what you consider comfortable. I can sit on a wooden chair playing cards all night with no problem, others can't.

The cushions in my 19 are fairly firm, but comfortable for me, but to spend much time at them is rare, but there have been a couple miserable nights where we sat inside with friends. Nobody complained.
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Welcome John, to our little Escape world. You can check out my 21' at the rally being held in late September here http://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f1...14-a-3292.html
if you can wait that long.
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Old 02-24-2014, 05:31 PM   #6
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I sat in a couple that were absolutely intolerable. Something jamming into my back or other such thing. Just wondering if the average person can spend an hour sitting.

cpaharley- Hope to be on the road towards my new trailer at that time- maybe next year.
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I have the advantage that I travel alone, so I only need one comfortable seat. Since I made a permanent bed out of the rear dinette, I replaced the Escape cushions on one side in the front with a West Marine High Backed chair. One of the most comfortable I've found.
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Old 02-24-2014, 06:54 PM   #8
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I understand your concerns John, truly. I don't know of ANY all molded towable that has a sitting area that doesn't have a back cushion dinette that's not straight up and down, like a 90 degree angle... other than the Casita FD, which has captains chairs in a small dinette. However, there are tons of owners of other brands that have found methods to increase seating comfort. AND it usually starts with pillows. Fluffy, overstuffed or lumbar support pillows.

I've spent quite a bit of time in Dave&Kathie's 21' Escape since they brought it home in November. Same thing, straight back seating. But, Kathie made overstuffed 20"x20" pillows and with a pillow behind the back, she told me that she and Dave watched a movie on the PC, while they each stretched out (facing the rear, one on the stove side.. the other fridge side) and they were truly comfortable.

That's my plan too!
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Another advantage of throw pillows, is bringing you forward. I find the seats too deep in my 19, something that must be even worse in the 21'. I like how Bigfoot puts a storage bin behind one seat to bring it closer to the table.
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I understand your concerns John, truly. I don't know of ANY all molded towable that has a sitting area that doesn't have a back cushion dinette that's not straight up and down, like a 90 degree angle... other than the Casita FD, which has captains chairs in a small dinette. However, there are tons of owners of other brands that have found methods to increase seating comfort. AND it usually starts with pillows. Fluffy, overstuffed or lumbar support pillows.

I've spent quite a bit of time in Dave&Kathie's 21' Escape since they brought it home in November. Same thing, straight back seating. But, Kathie made overstuffed 20"x20" pillows and with a pillow behind the back, she told me that she and Dave watched a movie on the PC, while they each stretched out (facing the rear, one on the stove side.. the other fridge side) and they were truly comfortable.

That's my plan too!
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Another advantage of throw pillows, is bringing you forward. I find the seats too deep in my 19, something that must be even worse in the 21'. I like how Bigfoot puts a storage bin behind one seat to bring it closer to the table.
The bench seats in a 21' are the same as the 19 - the table is wider. Reace tried the storage behind one bench on the first 21, but didn't like the offset bench for the little bit of additional storage.
We're going with the throw pillows for now, but I have a couple West Marine chairs we used in our 17 as plan B.
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The bench seats in a 21' are the same as the 19 - the table is wider. Reace tried the storage behind one bench on the first 21, but didn't like the offset bench for the little bit of additional storage.
We're going with the throw pillows for now, but I have a couple West Marine chairs we used in our 17 as plan B.
Ahh, so that's what he did. I do remember now him saying something about not liking it. Seems to work fine in the smaller Bigfoots though, but they only have counter on the one side.
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Old 02-24-2014, 08:42 PM   #13
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That first 21' that ETI brought to the Oregon Gathering had that extra space behind one of the rear dinette benches. After Reace, Tammy and family camped in the trailer for almost three weeks.. they took that "option" out and are building trailers without that space.

Don't you love when a manufacturer actually uses a trailer and determines the "majority" best fit!
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Thank you all.
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