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Old 04-21-2015, 08:41 PM   #1
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Expecting a 21, mid-September

Hi, all. We are working on our build sheet for our soon to be Escape 21. Build date is Sept. 14, 2015. Other commitments between now and then make the timing perfect for us. We plan to fetch it ourselves and attend the Fall NOG before heading back to central Texas.

Meanwhile, we've viewed a couple of 21's, as well as a couple of 5.0 TA's - in fact today we made a quick trip over to the Bluebonnet Rally (a.k.a. The Blueb) in Bandera, Texas. The rally doesn't begin until tomorrow, but Tammy and Reace and Dennis and Marlene are already there. It was great to meet them and discuss a few aspects of the soon to be. (Wish I had a cool name for it, but as yet I do not.) Rob & Robbie are also already there, and their very nicely appointed 21 changed our minds about several details on the build sheet. Thank you, Robbie & Rob! It was very good to hear their "what we especially like" and "what we wish we'd done differently" comments... I can tell we are going to love our new trailer!
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Old 04-21-2015, 08:43 PM   #2
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We are going with custom fabric and formica. Here are our choices on those. The fabric:
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Old 04-21-2015, 08:46 PM   #3
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The formica is called Seagrass Strand. I had wanted to go with the blue in the fabric, but their closest match just wasn't very close. It doesn't show in these images, but I think the seagrass strand pics up the "movement" in the swampy scene.
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Old 04-21-2015, 08:50 PM   #4
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That should look awesome In the trailer!

Congrats at the bold choice.
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Old 04-21-2015, 08:55 PM   #5
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Other options we're going with are very much YMMV things: no inverter, several extra 12 volt outlets; probably the Andersen hitch; definitely air conditioning and extra insulation; prewired for solar (we already have a panel) and bike rack ready; cubbies by the bathroom (these look really good in one of the 21's we saw today); the big storage box up front... One thing we hadn't thought we'd want is the window up front, but we very much liked it and will probably go for it. Still cannot decide about the oven w/3 burner stove. It's small, but in inclement weather I'm sure it would be very nice to have...
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Old 04-21-2015, 08:58 PM   #6
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Thanks, Bruce. I had gotten pretty discouraged, looking through website after website of fabrics (plus some on the ground looking at fabric stores). I mean I saw lots of things that would do, but nothing said "buy me." And then, there this was! Just like that. It's whimsical (a nice way to say "goofy") but it is us.
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Old 04-21-2015, 09:07 PM   #7
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Major decision struggles, besides the fabric and formica, have been whether to go with the standard or u-shaped dinette; whether to upgrade the galley fixtures to stainless steel (we will); and whether to get the stereo. Add to those today, whether to get the oven...

About the dinette decision: we have seen several configurations, and the u-shaped is probably my favorite for when it's just the two of us; but if we ever needed to have another couple or 3 people for dinner or dominoes (?), the standard dinette (with full size table) is the most useful. So, we are planning to go with that. (So far.)
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Old 04-21-2015, 09:48 PM   #9
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As for the u-shaped dinette, we are stalled over this one. Comments?? Loren
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Thanks, Vicky! Have fun at The Blueb!
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Whoa!! Mary, that is some kind of fabric. Hope I can see it some day.

The nonU table is big and heavy but if you expect company much of the time and do not want to be outside, then you probably need it.

With the U dinette, one can sit with back against cushions on the side and put legs up across that extra U area. In the 19' that can be done without a U, putting legs up facing toward doorway with legs off of bench somewhat. Can't do that with a 21' because the benches are up against walls on both sides so that does not work very well.

The oven, if you are big bakers, but otherwise don't know. It is more weight not to mention the cost.

If window up front, you lose the overhead shelf which is no doubt very handy.

The 21' we saw had cubbies above the bed instead of the shelf. Looks very nice and handy.$200.

I have to look at Seagrass Strand. I am betting that it will look great.
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Loren, the main drawback to the u-shaped dinette is the table is smaller. It's still plenty big for 2 people, IMHO, unless you want to work a jigsaw puzzle. (just kidding) It's such a nice option, I'm inclined to go for it. But my husband likes the full size table, and he doesn't think anyone would ever really sit on the back bench, so why get it. I think visually it's very inviting. Of course a few people just have the u-shaped seating without a table... or with stooge tables mounted on one or both side(s).

For what it's worth, I didn't get enough fabric to do the u-shape, so we're definitely going with the standard benches.

Also, I've seen a standard dinette with the smaller table, a la the u-shaped dinette. I liked it, too...

And, you probably already know that the standard dinette table moves side to side, to facilitate getting in and out of the dinette "booth." The table in the u-shaped dinette moves fore and aft, which makes sense since you'd be, theoretically, having a third person sit at the back.
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Cathy - Check out Chris R's pics of the mods to his 5.0 TA. He's using the Seagrass Strand formica, too.
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Thanks. Will have to have a look at a sample. Looks good in the photos.
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...the standard dinette table moves side to side, to facilitate getting in and out of the dinette "booth." The table in the u-shaped dinette moves fore and aft, which makes sense since you'd be, theoretically, having a third person sit at the back.

Not unless you specify which way it should slide. We got the u-shaped dinette and assumed the table would slide front to back. Not so. It slides side to side. I was told by Escape that you have to specify a front to back slide, and I wasn't very happy about the surprise. It was the first mod I did. Luckily, had a drill and some Robertson bits handy.
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You say you have to specify side to side. Do you mean front to back? You did not specify, right? The ones we know of go front to back. I thought that was standard but maybe not.
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You say you have to specify side to side. Do you mean front to back? You did not specify, right? The ones we know of go front to back. I thought that was standard but maybe not.

Yeah, I meant you have to specify front to back. Corrected my post. Thanks.
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Glad you mentioned this because we will specify front to back. That is what we saw and I thought that was standard.
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Glad you mentioned this because we will specify front to back. That is what we saw and I thought that was standard.

Yeah, every bit of info I had said it would slide front to back. Thought that all u-shaped dinettes had that. My next mod will be to replace the two poles with a gas operated telescoping single pole. Gonna wait until we install Allure flooring though. That way we can cover up the mounting holes from the original pole bases.
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Old 04-22-2015, 12:29 AM   #20
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Hmmm. Interesting. Actually, what I was told didn't come from anyone at Escape; it was from folks who had their tables that way. Proof that everything needs to be double checked with your ETI representative(s)...
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