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04-16-2020, 03:09 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Baytown, Texas
Trailer: 2017 21' Escape - upgraded version
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Important order info - escape graphic colors
After researching the Avery Dennison film that is used for Escape graphics, it turns out that the different colors have drastically different expected lives.
Durability for HP 700-215-O Gold - 1 year
Durability for HP 700-758-O Iguana Green - 1 year
Durability for HP 700-801-O Silver - 1 year
Durability for HP 700-413-O High Gloss Red - 4 years
Durability for HP 700-100-O High Gloss Transparent - 4 years
Durability for HP 700-315-O Tangerine - 5 years
Durability for HP 700-380-O Bright Orange - 5 years
Durability for all other colors - 6 years.
https://graphics.averydennison.com/c...perm-kraft.pdf
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04-16-2020, 04:24 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
Trailer: 2018 Escape 19
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Now I just have to figure out if I got silver or one of the greys.
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04-16-2020, 04:33 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Retired from Dallas & Full-Timing, Texas
Trailer: 2017 21' Escape as of 01/16/17
Posts: 1,312
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eggscape
Now I just have to figure out if I got silver or one of the greys. 
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Your build sheet should have that info, no?
Fred M.
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04-16-2020, 05:29 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
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So Tom, was yours red which is a little over 3 years?
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04-16-2020, 05:49 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Baytown, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
So Tom, was yours red which is a little over 3 years?
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Nope - HP 700-215-O Gold - 1 year.
Great looking graphic when it was new. I guess I shouldn't complain - it lasted twice as long as the manufacturer said it would.
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04-16-2020, 06:26 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 6,881
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In case anyone is wondering the graphics color Escape used on a lot of the early trailers before many buyers started picking custom colors was Spectra Red 700-460-O. I see it is now discontinued.
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04-16-2020, 06:34 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Ashland City, Tennessee
Trailer: 2016 21' Classic
Posts: 263
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I have a 2016 21' with the same gold graphics and have had no problems with peeling or fading. I do use 303 on the graphic as well as the fiberglass.
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04-16-2020, 06:52 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Baytown, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by titanizer
I have a 2016 21' with the same gold graphics and have had no problems with peeling or fading. I do use 303 on the graphic as well as the fiberglass.
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There are two gold colors - HP 700-215-O Gold and HP 700-253-O Imitation Gold.
215 has a one year life and 253 has a six year life. Are you sure you have the 215 that failed on my trailer? It will be on your build sheet.
Also, my trailer is stored outside - keeping it inside for storage would have probably made the graphics last much longer. (I use 303 as well on the graphics, rubber, and plastics every three months)
If you have the 215 gold and store your trailer outside, then I don't know why mine failed but your's is fine. Luck of the draw?
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04-16-2020, 06:57 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Bremerton, Washington
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Very interesting. Looks like our color has been discontinued: HP 700-960-O Terra Cotta. Fortunately it is rated for 6 years. 1 down, 5 to go.
Tom, Thanks for the link!
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04-16-2020, 09:38 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: East of Austin, Texas
Trailer: 2021 Escape 5.0 / 2022 F150 SuperCab
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Definitely useful info for the prospective purchaser - Thank You tdf-texas
(gotta love this forum!)
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04-16-2020, 09:42 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mid Left Coast, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21
Posts: 4,777
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My experiences with vinyl materials, black is nearly always the most durable
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04-16-2020, 09:48 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: East of Austin, Texas
Trailer: 2021 Escape 5.0 / 2022 F150 SuperCab
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz
My experiences with vinyl materials, black is nearly always the most durable
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Agreed; sometimes it's nice to know the degree of 'sacrifice' in getting a little color rather than going for the default robust black
Maybe I shouldn't be surprised at the degree of predicted difference (or lack thereof), but for some of those colors I am.
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04-16-2020, 10:36 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,196
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tdf-texas
There are two gold colors - HP 700-215-O Gold and HP 700-253-O Imitation Gold.
215 has a one year life and 253 has a six year life. Are you sure you have the 215 that failed on my trailer? It will be on your build sheet.
Also, my trailer is stored outside - keeping it inside for storage would have probably made the graphics last much longer. (I use 303 as well on the graphics, rubber, and plastics every three months)
If you have the 215 gold and store your trailer outside, then I don't know why mine failed but your's is fine. Luck of the draw? 
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We have Real Teal on our trailer . Now 7 years . One side in the sun is the side we have to keep adding 303 too constantly . Was wondering about poli glow or other sealers would help ? If they vinyl start pealing will just replace just don’t care for the bare look . Glad the kids said to go with the Teal because the other choice was Spectre Red . Pat
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04-16-2020, 10:54 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2015 Escape 17A
Posts: 2,340
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Like PatandLinda, we have Real Teal. And it's still really Real after almost 5 years.
I'm wondering what color 'High Gloss Transparent' fades to
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04-16-2020, 11:13 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
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Fading aside, I'd like to know why TDF-Texas's vinyl graphics are peeling. Mine are 12 years old and I've seen no indication that the vinyl is deteriorating.
I know you get more UVs down there, but I do wonder. My trailer has lived outside all its life. I've never applied 303. I've only used Simonize Wash and Wax and maybe twice a year properly waxed the trailer.
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04-16-2020, 11:45 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dfandrews
Like PatandLinda, we have Real Teal. And it's still really Real after almost 5 years.
I'm wondering what color 'High Gloss Transparent' fades to 
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Don didn’t know you did the Real Teal graphics too ! Pat
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04-16-2020, 11:48 PM
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Location: Baytown, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
Fading aside, I'd like to know why TDF-Texas's vinyl graphics are peeling. Mine are 12 years old and I've seen no indication that the vinyl is deteriorating.
I know you get more UVs down there, but I do wonder. My trailer has lived outside all its life. I've never applied 303. I've only used Simonize Wash and Wax and maybe twice a year properly waxed the trailer.
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It has to do with the way the film is made. The gold 215 film has a metallic finish in it that looks great but accelerates the damage from UV to the vinyl.
I'll be replacing the Gold with HP 700-630-O Olympic Blue and it should last many years as well. I really liked the gold but can't put up with replacing it every two years due to film failure.
That some color choices last longer than others is why I started this thread. When I ordered my Escape, I didn't know this or I would have made a better (and longer life) choice.
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04-16-2020, 11:54 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tdf-texas
It has to do with the way the film is made. The gold 215 film has a metallic finish in it that looks great but accelerates the damage from UV to the vinyl.
I'll be replacing the Gold with HP 700-630-O Olympic Blue and it should last many years as well. I really liked the gold but can't put up with replacing it every two years due to film failure.
That some color choices last longer than others is why I started this thread. When I ordered my Escape, I didn't know this or I would have made a better (and longer life) choice.
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Tom maybe like the metallic paint on vehicles . Never had good luck , it sure would degrade . When you replace the graphics it will be like you have a new trailer !Pat
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04-17-2020, 12:09 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Placerville, California
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I have the real teal as well! California, represent!
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04-17-2020, 01:50 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: East of Austin, Texas
Trailer: 2021 Escape 5.0 / 2022 F150 SuperCab
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tdf-texas
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I'll be replacing the Gold with HP 700-630-O Olympic Blue and it should last many years as well. I really liked the gold but can't put up with replacing it every two years due to film failure.
That some color choices last longer than others is why I started this thread. When I ordered my Escape, I didn't know this or I would have made a better (and longer life) choice.
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Thus the appreciation from this prospective purchaser, Thanks Again!
I ordered my Casita 'naked' which IMO works well for that 'egg'; methinks the Escapes look better with the side graphics (I've done a crude 'MS-paint delete' on some pics from the website), though I might choose to forego the large front graphic.
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