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Old 04-01-2016, 05:17 AM   #41
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I'm not sure but that exterior hatch looks the same as before? Reese mentioned a bigger one since there are no longer awning arms restricting placement?
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Old 04-01-2016, 07:18 AM   #42
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Here is the hatch info
2017 19' Standard Features and Options
Some of the new changes for the 2017 19'...

Standard Rear Upper Brake/Signal Lights.
Flat door with integrated screen door.
Optional Double Pane Frameless windows
Larger Exterior Hatch (10x24 rather than 9x18)
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Old 04-01-2016, 07:33 AM   #43
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I imagine that Escape has a lot on their plate, what with the renovations finally started, months behind schedule, but I see that there has been some progress since I was there a month ago. At that time, the door and windows were in the first shell, but that was about it.

A wee titbit regarding the moulds, and Reace's desire to put out a good product. When I was there he had sent the moulds back to the company that was building them, as he was not 100% satisfied with them, mostly due to the fact that the finish was not perfect in a couple places. Just a small thing, but something that cost him a bunch of time. By doing this work on the 19 mould, it meant the others were pushed back as far as completion goes too.

As a renovation contractor I fully understand how these types of delays happen, and just wanted to point out that for those that are anxious for things to progress, you can only imagine how the folks at Escape feel.
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Old 04-01-2016, 07:39 AM   #44
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Larger Exterior Hatch (10x24 rather than 9x18) [/I]
For those not aware, my 19 was one of the first to be made, and the awning was back from where it was subsequently put shortly after. Though this did cause conflict with the awning arm and the door, it did allow me to put in a much larger hatch.

The difference with having a larger hatch is HUGE. It allowed much better access to stow things under the bed from outside, and let in a lot more natural light to see what you were doing too. This new hatch is 50% bigger.
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Old 04-01-2016, 08:03 AM   #45
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For those not aware, my 19 was one of the first to be made, and the awning was back from where it was subsequently put shortly after. Though this did cause conflict with the awning arm and the door, it did allow me to put in a much larger hatch.

The difference with having a larger hatch is HUGE. It allowed much better access to stow things under the bed from outside, and let in a lot more natural light to see what you were doing too. This new hatch is 50% bigger.
Hi: Jim Bennett... Does it open up or down? Alf
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Old 04-01-2016, 08:10 AM   #46
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Mine opened down, but you can go either way, Alf.
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Old 04-01-2016, 08:14 AM   #47
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I really like the look of the new frameless windows.
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Old 04-01-2016, 02:15 PM   #48
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soo. what are Bali blinds?
"we really want the Bali blinds inside. I'm not a fan of the accordian type blinds and since I like to sleep in a really dark room"

I'm also a fan of dark sleeping .....
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Old 04-01-2016, 02:27 PM   #49
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They're mini blinds....or micro; Home Depot sells them. The accordion referred to are pleated shades, which we like. To me mini blinds in a small trailer are more prone to bending If aluminum and the weight of vinyl could be a potential issue in performance having had both in our home.
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You can go to the Bali site to see more of what their blinds are like. Plus, you can order 10 free samples of the type you're interested in, which I just did a short while ago. We'll get the 3/4" double cell shades, either room darkening or blackout.

Custom Window Treatments | Bali Blinds and Shades

I've included a photo of the current style blind full extended. Personally, I just don't like 'em and I'm thrilled that I have another option. When I was talking with Tammy yesterday she said some people had been asking for the option for different style shades and the straighter walls will give them that option. Like me!

I'm hoping to time it so I can view the 2017 21' when it's all completed, except for the blinds. I don't know at what stage they put them in, but I'll ask when it gets closer to the time for when they're working on the interiors. It'd be great if I could go up before their blinds are in place and see how one of ours would look in there. We can pop one of the smaller ones off our wall and haul it up there with us. It won't be an exact fit, but it'll give a good idea. I might have to back the blinds off a bit from the wall to clear the interior window frame. I can attach them to the underneath of the cabinets with an inside/ceiling type mount. Of course I'll report back to this forum once I've done so and will supply photos.

PS: we're getting the cordless type
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Thanks, Laura. When you get it all figured out please do let us know what sizes to order, what hardware is needed etc.
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Thanks, Laura. When you get it all figured out please do let us know what sizes to order, what hardware is needed etc.
Hey, I may start charging for this info!

Oh wait, I owe ya, so I guess this one is gratis.

I do know that when you order the blinds, you tell them which style of mount you're going to do and they include the appropriate hardware for that type (inside, outside, ceiling).
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Old 04-01-2016, 03:27 PM   #53
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I too really like the blinds that Escape uses. They work so great for use in an RV. There might be other good ones out there though. I had the mini blinds in our last trailer, and did not like them at all.

I really do have to ask though, why would anyone want to be sleeping when the sun is up?
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Oh okay. All this time I thought you were getting blinds, which I hated in our Casita.

We have the cellular shades (made by Bali) in our bedroom at the house, and I really like them. I've seen some in other RV's that are light filtering along the bottom and room darkening at the top; pull them all the way down to darken the room. Other versions of these shades can be pulled up or down all the way, such that they block the window along the bottom while you can still see out across the top. That's the feature I'd like to have, but when I asked about custom shades, I got a quick "no."

I figure if/when ETI's stock accordion shades wear out, I'll investigate replacing them with something that works more to my liking... And in a more interesting color.
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Super helpful! Thank you so much for the guided tour!
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... And in a more interesting color.
This is one of the biggest drawbacks of the stock shades, in that folks can't choose from a myriad of colours to match their decorating style, like most of the other finishes in the trailers.
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I figure if/when ETI's stock accordion shades wear out, I'll investigate replacing them with something that works more to my liking... And in a more interesting color.
Might be a long wait. Mine are just fine after eight years.
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I had the cordless blackout shades I put in my previous 17B and really liked them. The stock ETI shades in the 19 I really like and they are pretty good at blocking light. The one thing I have noticed is they seem much sturdier, probably because they are designed for RV use. I do agree that some color choices would enhance the stock choice if colors are available. It would make it tougher on ETI to order, stock and achieve lower costs.
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I'm wondering if one could simply remove the accordion blinds and spray paint them on the window facing side only in order to block more light? Hmmm.
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They're mini blinds....or micro; Home Depot sells them. The accordion referred to are pleated shades, which we like. To me mini blinds in a small trailer are more prone to bending If aluminum and the weight of vinyl could be a potential issue in performance having had both in our home.
Redoing apartments found you can special order heavier blinds then off the store shelf blinds . The ones they sell off the shelf or thin and bend real easy . Pat
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