New 23 floorplan renderings on ETI website!

[pmaknight]

I think the Twin Floorplan is nice for a family of 4. You get separate "rooms" for the kids and adults, the kids can sleep in an L shape on the kitchen table to have more space, and you get a separate bathroom and shower. Perhaps the table will also have a cot option for kids. My wife really wants a dry bath, and you can always use the shower as storage as well. I think the stove will end up next to the sink and perhaps the cook top is one of those new ones that can run off lithium better? I've seen those in stickies. You also get a nice swinging spice rack.

I was hoping I'd like the queen layout more, but the bathroom door is a bit odd in the render and you lose the cool spice rack. You also lose the openness of having a single aisle down the middle. Perhaps it will be better in person/on video.

The 23T looks almost exactly like the Airstream Flying Cloud 25FB Twin, but shrunk by 2 feet and fiberglass. That was always my favorite layout in the Airstream.

[Greg A]

I thought I’d really like the 23 when it was announced, I don’t.
The Bigfoot 25 is so much more trailer, that we’d still go there if ever a change.
The 23 as said above, seems to be all built around getting the bath and I think it causes the trailer to be very cluttered and not spacious. Galley space seems very tiny.
Of course, I reserve the right to change my opinion if I ever actually see one, but a Q bed with two cutoff corners and what looks like two Scamp 13’s glued together with a door separating them for $40k+ is not doing it for me.
I’m sure many will like it and it should do well for ETI especially the twin bed model which Casita showed has a market.
It’s just not giving me goosebumps, and loving the 19 even more.

[TahoeJoe]

Let's not lose sight of the important word "Preliminary" above these renderings. Also, comparing to Bigfoot has one big problem...price. Personally, I can afford an Escape, but Bigfoots are out of my price range.

[rubicon327]

Update video posted yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8oc...ature=emb_logo

[rubicon327]

With similar proportions it seems the Bigfoot 25B21FB layout would be advantageous to emulate. Side dinette and lose the view out the rear. Always compromises...

[UncleTim]

Originally Posted by rubicon327

With similar proportions it seems the Bigfoot 25B21FB layout would be advantageous to emulate. Side dinette and lose the view out the rear. Always compromises...

I agree. They use every inch of space well.

That is a floor plan I think I could live with.

[Steve S.]

I watched the new video. Interesting that they said they are not introducing any new options in the next two years a few days ago and then the new E23 video suggests that they are still looking at aluminum frames. Aluminum is attractive on a number of levels but is very susceptible to fatigue issues. It needs engineering. I hope that they work out potential issues on paper before they are identified in the field.

[Brian B-P]

Originally Posted by Steve S.

... the new E23 video suggests that they are still looking at aluminum frames. Aluminum is attractive on a number of levels but is very susceptible to fatigue issues. It needs engineering. I hope that they work out potential issues on paper before they are identified in the field.

An aluminum frame seems like a very bad idea to me, because of those issues. Hopefully this is just chatter in response to Oliver fans, and won't go ahead.

[brroberts]

The plan on the 23 is an aluminum frame. I have not heard any talk of changing any of the other frames.

[oldwave]

Originally Posted by UncleTim

I agree. They use every inch of space well.

That is a floor plan I think I could live with.

We’d love to have a Bigfoot but the 60,000 price is out of the range
If the 23 comes in at 40 we might look. The 21 is nice though, the 5.0 may also still be in the cards. Maybe my kids will strike it rich .

[Eggscape]

We will never have a Bigfoot as none of their models have a 60 x 80 bed. That is minimum for us.

Our last trailer had a dry bath...what a waste of space. Ended up putting in a removable rod and hanging coats in it. Took the coats out when we wanted a shower.

I don’t think with the wall in the trailer that people are going to be happy with how closed in the trailer is going to feel.

[brroberts]

I really liked our Bigfoot pickup camper; never had a Bigfoot trailer. I prefer 84”-90” wide trailers. Less than 84” leaves it too small inside for me. Over 90” and it gets harder to go some of the places I go. Bigfoot doesn’t make a trailer that width. They also don’t have a 60” wide bed until the 25’. I don’t want or need anything that big. It’s likely at some point I’ll want another camper, and Bigfoot will be at the top of the list. I’ve had 3 stick campers, and the Bigfoot was much better. The NorthernLite campers of Escape’s sister company would be a second choice for me.

[Steven M]

Having a 21C, I think if I had a choice or option for it I would take the 23C with a wet bath and more kitchen/living area.

[Andrea]

Appears like no front window over the twin beds. That would be a deal breaker for me. Natural light from all four sides is a must. Will see when the final design is finished.

[TahoeJoe]

Personally I am really liking the 23C floorplan. Judging from some of the negative reactions here, it's clear that the dry bath and walkaround bed are not desirable enough to some folks to justify the space compromises...but they are to me. This floorplan is actually pretty similar to the Lance 2075, which is another trailer we are considering. But that one is slightly longer and wider, so it appears to be a little more spacious. We are eager to see the final 23 floorplan and of course, the actual prototype...

[MattC]

Interesting that Karl said the 23C was the only trailer on the market with the layout it has. Check out the Riverside Retro 171drd https://fnsrv.com/retro/171drd
I know, not fiberglass and only 21 feet, but also half the price. Picked one up in November after having my heart set on the E23. Priority of us was walk around queen (full size as this unit is 8 ft wide). Getting to be too old to climb over my wife every time I get in or out of bed. Happy camping to all!

[sofmerc]

I really liked some of the Retros, but the quality was an issue for me. I'm a newbie and read the reviews ,and it scared me. They really are cool looking though

[MattC]

I understand completely. I was very hesitant to buy any of the mass produced, stick-built trailers and was set on an E23. Then I read on this forum about the grey water drain issues that seemed to start around the time Escape was acquired by KV Private Equity. Maybe co-incidental, but at that point I decided to take a chance on the Retro. Still love the Escapes though. If I ever upgrade to fiberglass it will either be Escape or Bigfoot.