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Old 05-09-2016, 09:10 PM   #1
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Stumpeded on thermal window options

I'm purchasing the 2017 19'. On the build sheet there is the $1000 Extra insulation and thermal windows vs $1500 extra insulation and frameless thermal windows (includes opening rear window). I thought frameless windows was the only option on the 2017. Is the two options on the build sheet only for those still getting the 2016?
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Old 05-09-2016, 09:22 PM   #2
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Due to popular demand for now one can order current thermal or frameless ones for 2017 models.
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Old 05-09-2016, 09:49 PM   #3
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Is an opening rear window only available with the frameless?
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Old 05-09-2016, 10:41 PM   #4
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Is an opening rear window only available with the frameless?
Correct. And it'll be a split window so you can open both sides or just one side at a time.
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I'm going with the frameless option since the metal frame on the old style seems to bring the outside cold inside and frost forms on the metal frame and then drips once it heats up. Hoping the new style will eliminate this issue.
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Split window sounds nice.
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Old 05-10-2016, 12:11 PM   #8
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I'm going with the frameless option since the metal frame on the old style seems to bring the outside cold inside and frost forms on the metal frame and then drips once it heats up. Hoping the new style will eliminate this issue.


Exactly my thinking too Jim
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Frameless ,great if you don't need or want ventilation . If it was me I would go sit in a RV and check it out for myself . Pat
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Old 05-10-2016, 12:33 PM   #10
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Frameless ,great if you don't need or want ventilation . If it was me I would go sit in a RV and check it out for myself . Pat
If I get uncomfortable there is always the fan and a/c, the benefit of no drips plus opening rear plus opening in rain, IMHO far outweighs any perceived diminished air circulation.
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Old 05-10-2016, 01:29 PM   #11
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Frameless ,great if you don't need or want ventilation . If it was me I would go sit in a RV and check it out for myself . Pat
I second Pat's suggestion, especially if you're not familiar with frameless. Easy to go to an RV show and many of the stickies at the shows will have the frameless windows. Go in and play around with them to your hearts content, they don't mind. I did this recently, because I had never really seen them before.

Big investment, and an easy way to make sure you get the decision right for you.
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If I get uncomfortable there is always the fan and a/c, the benefit of no drips plus opening rear plus opening in rain, IMHO far outweighs any perceived diminished air circulation.
Jim you get what makes you happy . Pat
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Since we camp much more often in cool to cold weather than in hot, I'm more than willing to trade a slight ventilation reduction with less condensation on the metal frames.

In Donna's wise words, YMMV.
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Since we camp much more often in cool to cold weather than in hot, I'm more than willing to trade a slight ventilation reduction with less condensation on the metal frames.

In Donna's wise words, YMMV.
I think most of us go to hotter or colder climates . It is good to know what to expect . It sure would be the pits to be stuck with windows , you hate and no one informed you so at least you could make a informed decision . Pat
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Old 08-22-2016, 07:13 PM   #15
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Frameless ,great if you don't need or want ventilation . If it was me I would go sit in a RV and check it out for myself . Pat
So.... do the frameless windows not open... or open only how far?
How do the framed ones open differently?

Had wondered about this, seeing some of the photos posted, and windows flipped open only very slightly.

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Keep in mind that the opening frameless windows all have screens in front of the whole window. This might not be bothering, but for some it will.
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Here is my take on the frameless, they open at the bottom maybe up to 6" inches, not as much as the slider BUT, they function in the rain. In addition the entire rubber sealant is protected by the glass on the outside. Over time the rubber around conventional sliders will deteriorate and need replacement. on the frameless they should last a lot longer. On the inside the metal frame is not exposed to the cold exterior so your frost and dripping water should go away and the trailer should be warmer. These are my reasons for switching plus they look better from the outside.
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Thanks so much for the information!
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On having ventilation with rain, that is why we had the small 19' awning window installed at the kitchen on our 21' (instead of the standard big slider). We keep it open at night as well as the bath window, and the fan vents. We have had many nights with rain and don't have to close up everything. We do close those windows if it rains hard and the wind blows a great deal, or just keep them open a crack.

In lighter rain, we can keep the awning window open quite a bit. (I also always run the fans for a few minutes when coming back to the trailer in the day, just in case that might help with any condensation.)
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On the inside the metal frame is not exposed to the cold exterior so your frost and dripping water should go away and the trailer should be warmer.
Just remember, the frame work on the inside of the window is the same whether you get frameless or framed windows. This is a picture Laura took of the 19' Frameless window during the build
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