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Old 01-22-2017, 11:09 AM   #1
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Craftsman Sale to Black & Decker

Some of you may find this an interesting read, I had not heard about it:

What You Need to Know About the Craftsman Sale to Black & Decker
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Eric, Good article! Thanks for sharing. Love that another company is coming back to the States!
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Old 01-22-2017, 11:45 AM   #3
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That was on the news hear a while back. Not real surprising though, as Sears really seems to have dropped their game level a lot over the last 20 years. They just didn't seem to keep up with the changing retail market. I went into one near me a few months back, and there was very few customers in it. At one time their brand loyalty was very high.
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Craftsman tools were the best at one time, like back in the fifties when they were made in the US. Then, Sears went for the big bucks and turned the brand into cheap crap. Will that change?
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Decades ago when I bought most of my hand tools they were mostly from Sears Craftsman line - not up to the standards of a SnapOn level, but most of the time fine for me. I knew if one did have a problem it was easily replaced. In my mind, again many decades ago, Black and Decker was very good quality, then they went into steep quality decline and I stayed away from them. I've heard that they are making much better stuff again now, but I don't really have any recent experience.

I do remember when Sears starting carrying just a Sears branded level of tools that were mostly crap. I bought one, (can't remember what) one time, not realizing it was not a Craftsman, it broke and was shocked when I took it back in and they refused to replace it.
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Decades ago when I bought most of my hand tools they were mostly from Sears Craftsman line - not up to the standards of a SnapOn level, but most of the time fine for me. I knew if one did have a problem it was easily replaced.
When I worked building electrical substations (21-34 years ago), a good part of it was erecting steel structures. We used a lot of wrenches, ratchet and combo open/box end. Fortunately, I had a set of Snap-on inherited from a great uncle who was a mechanic. The stuff was older yet, but worked fantastically. I did replace the guts for free one time on a couple ratchets. Other co-workers bought Craftsman stuff, because of the better price and a good warranty. What they did not account for was their time to take the ratchets in once or twice a year for repair, something that for me takes away from value.

Of course, having had to rely on tools for work my entire adult life, I know full well the value of purchasing quality. Though, there is the odd one-off tool I buy something cheap, just to get that one-time job done without big cost.
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I always looked longingly at SnapOn stuff, had a couple, but looked at the prices and my (always thin back then) wallet would go into shock!

Also, being really old like me, I think that the Craftsman tools I have were from the height of their quality. I can honestly say that in all those decades of use I have used that warranty very little. Well there was the time I was using that socket drive reducer when I never should have been and broke 2 in the same day. The guy at Sears was not happy with me...
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Also, being really old like me, I think that the Craftsman tools I have were from the height of their quality. I can honestly say that in all those decades of use I have used that warranty very little.
Like Eric, I purchased all my mechanic type Craftsmen tools in the late fifties when they were top in their class, well for an eleven year old at least - not a pro mechanic. After much use all these years only warranty was for the 3/4" flex T handle that started to flake off the chromium coating. Was replaced with another just a few years ago as I was tired of the metal splinters.

Good article, thanks.
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I have a shop full of 10-15 year old Craftsman power hand tools. I bought a Craftsman mitre saw that was crap and I traded for a Dewalt. No regrets. My Craftsman tablesaw is marginal, gets it done but could be better quality.

We're having a lot of workers in our new house and they all use Makita lithium tools. 18v batteries last forever and they seem indestructable! I told Santa to start shopping for a set of Makitas. RIP Craftsman.
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Like Eric, I purchased all my mechanic type Craftsmen tools in the late fifties when they were top in their class, well for an eleven year old at least - not a pro mechanic. After much use all these years only warranty was for the 3/4" flex T handle that started to flake off the chromium coating. Was replaced with another just a few years ago as I was tired of the metal splinters.

Good article, thanks.
They are just fine for the homeowner, who is what they are designed for. Just not the professional. My dad owned a John Deere dealership, and almost all his mechanics owned Snap-on. Huge investments into their tool cabinets. If you ever used a good Snap-on ratchet, with the smooth action with twice as many teeth, it will make you all giddy.
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I have a shop full of 10-15 year old Craftsman power hand tools. I bought a Craftsman mitre saw that was crap and I traded for a Dewalt. No regrets. My Craftsman tablesaw is marginal, gets it done but could be better quality.

We're having a lot of workers in our new house and they all use Makita lithium tools. 18v batteries last forever and they seem indestructable! I told Santa to start shopping for a set of Makitas. RIP Craftsman.
Hi Greggo have many from the 60's ,Craftsman tools . Fixed many auto's and trucks through the years . My favorite drill , cheaper to replace batteries is a ,Craftsman . Have had Bosch and Makita 's in the past . Too expensive when batteries need replacing . While working lately my old Craftsman nailer needs some parts it's almost 40 years old . Needed to finish ,used coupon and went to our new Harbor Feight store . Got to say for 16.00 , not too bad for their nailer . Don't know if I will fix my old nailer . Pat
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Sears is on a steep downhill road to insolvency and the sale of the Craftsman line of tools is just going to provide a short term reprieve, but will not change the longer term prognosis. The Craftsman tool line has slipped tremendously in recent years and is now only a shadow of its past quality. I would suggest looking elsewhere if you have a desire for quality.
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Sear used to be THE store and now there are so many others. Competition came along including the Internet. Maybe Sears can still do well in small places.
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Sear used to be THE store and now there are so many others. Competition came along including the Internet. Maybe Sears can still do well in small places.
When I was a kid, like back in the mid-1960s, JC Penny, Montgomery Wards and Sears often had Catalog stores in small towns rather than full-fledged stocked stores. You went to the catalog store to place your order and in a few days/weeks you'd go back to the catalog store and pickup your product. (Amazon ala Flintstones!)
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When I was a kid, like back in the mid-1960s, JC Penny, Montgomery Wards and Sears often had Catalog stores in small towns rather than full-fledged stocked stores. You went to the catalog store to place your order and in a few days/weeks you'd go back to the catalog store and pickup your product. (Amazon ala Flintstones!)
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Both Wards and Sears sold Craftsman houses, shipped via railroad to your local deposit, complete homes with plans and all components, including nails. I would really like to find one to live in, they are quite beautiful. There were 2 noted architects and their plans are quite beautiful. Sears Homes 1927-1932
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Both Wards and Sears sold Craftsman houses, shipped via railroad to your local deposit, complete homes with plans and all components, including nails. I would really like to find one to live in, they are quite beautiful. There were 2 noted architects and their plans are quite beautiful. Sears Homes 1927-1932
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There is a beautiful one of those in the town nearest us. The owners are turning it into a bed and breakfast.
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Both Wards and Sears sold Craftsman houses, shipped via railroad to your local deposit, complete homes with plans and all components, including nails. I would really like to find one to live in, they are quite beautiful. There were 2 noted architects and their plans are quite beautiful. Sears Homes 1927-1932
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How cool is that ! Pat
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