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Old 07-24-2022, 05:55 AM   #81
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Note that a light-year is a unit of distance-measure, not age-measure of the source of the 'light' (or radiation).

There's absolutely no contradiction in an object being 46 billion (or more) light-years distant in a ~13.x billion year-old universe (it was a VERY BIG bang).

That's true if objects could travel faster than the speed of light. But you can't get 46 billion light years away in only 13 billion years without travelling ~3x faster than the speed of light.
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Old 07-24-2022, 07:37 AM   #82
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That's true if objects could travel faster than the speed of light. But you can't get 46 billion light years away in only 13 billion years without travelling ~3x faster than the speed of light.
Yeah, there was rampant inflation 13.7 Billion years ago too. But it was a different kind of inflation.

https://www.sciencemeetsreligion.org.../inflation.php
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Old 07-24-2022, 08:16 AM   #83
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There's absolutely no contradiction in an object being 46 billion (or more) light-years distant in a ~13.x billion year-old universe (it was a VERY BIG bang).
Thank you Centex for your rational and correct response. I was trying to be tongue in cheek when I mentioned light from 46b light years away. The light is from 13b light years away, emitted at that time by galaxies that are now 46b light years away. Sorry for twisting the grammar.
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Old 07-24-2022, 02:08 PM   #84
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That's true if objects could travel faster than the speed of light. But you can't get 46 billion light years away in only 13 billion years without travelling ~3x faster than the speed of light.
You do not quite have a grasp of the issue. The Universe is expanding while the light particles from (in this specific case) galaxy MACSO647-JD are in transit. In transit specifically to the James Webb telescope. Their arrival kicks the Webb telescope staff into high gear. The scientists determine with an incredible amount of precision the wavelength of these light particles. This is where the real science begins.

And wow, do things get tricky from here on in. Determining distance in an expanding Universe is a challenge. There is more than one moving part to deal with. Add to that the additional 'problem' that the Universe is expanding at an increasing rate. Cosmologists think about time on the intergalactic scale as the light-travel distance.

The cosmic speed limit is the speed of light. The size of the Universe is the size which can be observed and detected.

In the hypothetical realm the question can be asked: "At what distance away from us does the speed at which things are moving away reach the speed of light? Then the answer is around 46.5 billion light years.

Finally, (at least in terms of my level of competency with respect to this subject) It is space which is expanding along with -- or carrying along with the objects in that space. You could think of it this way: With a magic marker dot up a balloon with smudges, etc. Blow the balloon up. What happens?
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https://www.express.co.uk/news/scien...n-chorizo-star

It’s all a fraud! James Webb telescope images are actually pictures of chorizo cheese! A 48 billion year old slice of cheese!
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Chorizo is not cheese, its a spicy sausage

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Thank heavens it was sausage, not cheese!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scienti...orizo-apology/

I should have known since I always enjoy chorizo breakfast burritos at Stripes gas stations.
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Thank heavens it was sausage, not cheese!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scienti...orizo-apology/

I should have known since I always enjoy chorizo breakfast burritos at Stripes gas stations.
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The chirizo star made in the news here in St. Louis.

I wanted to smash it in my cast iron pan and then put it on a Kings' Hawaiian Bun.
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I think it’s all done with mirrors.
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I think its all done with mirrors.
Hi: bborzell... You left out the "Smoke"!!!
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I'm guessing NASA has the multi-million dollar version of Photoshop. Lol

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