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05-03-2018, 08:01 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,532
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New Concept Trailer
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2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
“Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.” — Abraham Lincoln
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05-03-2018, 08:10 AM
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#2
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,035
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
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Hi: Jim Bennett... "Every thing old is new again". Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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Quote Bugs Bunny..."Don't take life too seriously, none of us get out of it ALIVE"!!!
'16 Ram Eco D. 4X4 Laramie Longhorn CC & '14 Escape 5.0TA
St.Thomas (Not the Virgin Islands) Ontario
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05-03-2018, 08:17 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Trailer: 2017 Escape 19 pulled by GMC Canyon Diesel.
Posts: 198
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
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Origami-like trailers with hydraulics, little motors and miniature canal systems teaming up to provide hours of grief at the most inconvenient moment.
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Jean-Pierre
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness. Mark Twain
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05-03-2018, 08:18 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: ..., New Mexico
Trailer: 2013 Esc19/'14 Silvrado
Posts: 4,193
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Very cute, but... Ask any owner of trailers with slide outs: Reality is finding out how big a problem insane reliance on hydraulics becomes your annual maintenance nuisance. Nothing new about that concept.
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Myron
"A billion here, a billion there...add it all up and before you know it you're talking real money." Everett Dirkson
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05-03-2018, 09:06 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
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My favorite are the ones that telescope out sideways instead of front and back, making them unusable at most north American campgrounds and RV parks.
That's OK, keep innovating. Every once in a great while someone comes up with a design that actually works and is practical.
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"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy an RV. And that is pretty close."
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05-03-2018, 10:10 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Felton, California
Trailer: 2018 21' ; 2014 19' (Sold)
Posts: 1,301
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I find the 'door' interesting ... or is it a door ... And, of course, there are other new and innovative campers.
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Jan
We do not remember days, we remember moments.
- Cesare Pavese
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05-03-2018, 10:12 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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My nephew spend a long weekend waiting for an RV tech to come and fix the slides on his ginourmous sticky. Had to climb over furniture inside to get to the bathroom.
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What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
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05-03-2018, 12:16 PM
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#8
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Highland Park, New Jersey
Trailer: Escape 19 February 2014
Posts: 975
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On the other hand -- I can definitely understand the appeal. Our daughter is full timing in a Lance and with all those kids they just couldn't do it without the slideout. People want different things out of their trailers.
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05-03-2018, 12:18 PM
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#9
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,743
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
Had to climb over furniture inside to get to the bathroom.
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Oh well, some of us have to climb over people to get to the washroom.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
See many potential problems?
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We were parked next to a Trailmanor at Organ Pipe. I knew that it collapsed down but for the life of me I couldn't figure out how. I came home and watched the video. It's pretty clever also, expands into a huge amount of extra space without using the dreaded slides.
Ron
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05-03-2018, 12:48 PM
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#10
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,035
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Hi: All... I want a trailer that packs up like a suitcase, tows like a boler, and lives in like a 5th. wheel. Oh wait a minute... I already have one!!! Escape 5.0TA. Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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Quote Bugs Bunny..."Don't take life too seriously, none of us get out of it ALIVE"!!!
'16 Ram Eco D. 4X4 Laramie Longhorn CC & '14 Escape 5.0TA
St.Thomas (Not the Virgin Islands) Ontario
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05-03-2018, 02:36 PM
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#11
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruthe
On the other hand -- I can definitely understand the appeal. Our daughter is full timing in a Lance and with all those kids they just couldn't do it without the slideout. People want different things out of their trailers.
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Hi Ruthe . We actually like the new Lance trailers and they are made here in Lancaster , California . There are a lot of nice features on them to like . Back in the day Lance was definetly a camper to own . Pat
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05-03-2018, 03:08 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,023
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At Spring NOG and since, I now know of three couples/solos that are moving from Escape builds (two 17' and one 21') to the dark side One is buying a Lance and the other two the OutdoorsRV which is manufactured in Oregon. Their reasoning for the change is sound and they know what the issues may be. Life happens.
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Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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05-03-2018, 03:23 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Highland Park, New Jersey
Trailer: Escape 19 February 2014
Posts: 975
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California has certain environmental regs that my daughter tells me makes the Lance a little less toxic when it's outgassing, compared to other stick built trailers. that was part of the appeal -- plus the bunk room.
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05-03-2018, 03:33 PM
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#14
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Highland Park, New Jersey
Trailer: Escape 19 February 2014
Posts: 975
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People are always polite, but there are many who are amazed that we don't get on each other's nerves in such a small space. They're willing to put up with the inconveniences of an occasionally broken slide because otherwise they couldn't travel in an RV.
It's a balance sheet. When people travel it's always going to be different from home. Some of us can do REALLY different -- travel in a small trailer -- because we don't mind giving up the comforts when the trailer is so easy to tow, fits into just about any space, is small and easy to clean (and yes, I know, made so well) and is affordable given its attention to detail. Most RVers couldn't conceive of doing it our way.
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05-03-2018, 03:36 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,023
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruthe
California has certain environmental regs that my daughter tells me makes the Lance a little less toxic when it's outgassing, compared to other stick built trailers. that was part of the appeal -- plus the bunk room.
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The solo moving from an Escape 17' to an OutdoorsRV, wants a living room (inside) ME TOO dang it. She's buying the 21' and it has two recliners in the rear living space. SWOON. The only all-molded towable I know that's comparable is the Bigfoot Silver Cloud. But that sucker is heavy and they only built 12 in the mid-1980s.
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Donna D.
Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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05-03-2018, 03:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Owned 2 new Lance trailers, a Lance 1880 which had a defective roof filled with air bubbles and another, Lance 1575, the one with a slide that turns out had a defective motor. The slide issue is major in that there is no back up, you are dead in the water. Oh and they both leaked, brand new, off the the dealer's lot.
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Jim
Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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05-03-2018, 05:09 PM
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#17
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denison, Texas
Trailer: 2015 21'; 2011 19' sold; 4Runner; ph ninezero3 327-27ninefour
Posts: 5,136
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We showed some people our trailer and they were considering an SOB. It had some of the worst reviews that I have ever seen. Don't want to mention any names but I have seen it on this forum. Those people did buy an Escape so maybe they saw some of the same comments on the other one. It usually does help to try to look at a lot of reviews.
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Cathy. Floating Cloud
"Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air.... "
Emerson
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05-03-2018, 06:14 PM
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#18
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
We were parked next to a Trailmanor at Organ Pipe. I knew that it collapsed down but for the life of me I couldn't figure out how. I came home and watched the video. It's pretty clever also, expands into a huge amount of extra space without using the dreaded slides.
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That’s clever engineering for sure. Makes a quick stop for lunch or using the bathroom a bit of a pain. Like anything else there are compromises and it just depends on how you travel and your overall needs.
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05-03-2018, 07:25 PM
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#19
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,532
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruthe
People are always polite, but there are many who are amazed that we don't get on each other's nerves in such a small space. .
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My wife and my relationship seems to improve when travelling in our relatively small trailer. Could be because we have to, or maybe because there is a lot less stress involved in what we are doing.
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2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
“Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.” — Abraham Lincoln
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05-03-2018, 07:44 PM
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#20
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
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I think if I we were fulltiming we might feel differently, but we are more than happy with the space in our 19. When we camp we know going in that we aren't taking our whole house with us, and that's part of the charm. Some friends here know that I'm in the process of having (what I hope is our last) home built near Canyon Lake in the Hill Country. We like nice things as much as the next guy. If we need big, and we need space, and we need luxury, all we'll have to do is stay home.
But camping is a completely different vibe, one we always look forward to. And there's nothing like waking up in the morning at a new and beautiful place and just admiring the view over a cup of coffee. I don't see how a bigger trailer would make that view any more enjoyable.
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