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Old 01-06-2017, 08:56 AM   #1
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A odorless gas, it is a natural occurring decomposition of inert materials found in basements/crawlspaces in all but a handful of states. It is also found in well water. I'm in the process of testing my house now and there are remediation measures one can take
see here for details https://geopub.epa.gov/Radon/
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Radon is a significant indoor problem in our geographic area. I did a radon mitigation system install myself and took ours down to "safe" levels. Interestingly US and Canada have very different levels considered safe. Rather than buying many of the one time test kits I bought one of these: Siren Series Radon Detector

What I have learned is that a short time interval test is very suspect. Radon levels can vary greatly based on weather and soil conditions. Very cold/frozen ground periods and also when the ground is very saturated will show significantly increased levels. I highly recommend relatively long term testing to get an somewhat accurate reading.
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I've sold two houses, both were tested for Radon and both were free of problems as they tested but who knows for sire unless all protocols are followed and varying conditions are considered? Good luck on your test Jim. A friend of mine in Waverly, Iowa got his testing certification and last I knew was using Radon Testing as his retirement job. Said it was a good go.
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I was looking at those detectors but they have to be recalibrated ($$$) routinely. I do try to not spend that much time in the basement, more for peace of mind. But I do plan on testing it a couple of times to get a true reading. This one costs more but is supposed to be accurate without recalibration. https://www.amazon.com/Corentium-Air...EZ3SDYKE1KJ514 Then there is the manometer, I thought life would get simpler. It is required now if you sell your home, the test that is.
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Jim,I figure that the recalibration is for using them professionally. Since I'm just using it for ballpark figures here at my place I imagine it stays close enough. The manometer is relatively cheap and only needed if you have the blower fan system in operation.
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Jim,I figure that the recalibration is for using them professionally. Since I'm just using it for ballpark figures here at my place I imagine it stays close enough.
makes sense, another option to consider. Now to find a sump pump cover that will fit mine.
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makes sense, another option to consider. Now to find a sump pump cover that will fit mine.
You're lucky then! I had to take out a chunk of the basement concrete floor and then remove dirt underneath it to make a cavity by hand - not high on my list of fun jobs. If we didn't have our elliptical machine that we both exercise with in the basement, I think I would have skipped it all. Or just looked at the pre 2007 Canadian "safe" levels instead of the US ones!
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My house is located in an area called Springdale, with you guessed it, springs. Although it has survived 70 years without one, I installed a sump pump and drainage system awhile back, the original french drain allowed the basement to be damp They excavated around the perimeter and laid gravel and pipes that drain into the sump pit where it is then pumped out. All of this construction and now open areas in the basement I think may have solved my dampness issue but now it allows the radon an egress to the basement. So solving one issue has created another problem.
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Imagine this, a Badger complaining about having to dig a hole. Non Sequiter. Just kidding Eric, I know you're a displaced Illinioian (sp?)
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Imagine this, a Badger complaining about having to dig a hole. Non Sequiter. Just kidding Eric, I know you're a displaced Illinioian (sp?)
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Floyd over on FGRV calls it "Illanoy"
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I have had one of these for years.

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I do try to not spend that much time in the basement, more for peace of mind.
This thread sounds like a good excuse to get out camping...
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This thread sounds like a good excuse to get out camping...
Exactly - the less time you spend at home, the less the problem!
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A odorless gas, it is a natural occurring decomposition of inert materials found in basements/crawlspaces in all but a handful of states.
Well, I wouldn't call radioactive decay "decomposition", and while uranium isn't highly chemically reactive I think it's misleading to suggest that "inert materials" decompose to produce radon. Uranium-238 and thorium-232 are the only elements which produce radon (via intermediates including radium); neither is inert. The radon gas may be found in basements, but the source is not; basements are just places where radon may accumulate.

The point is that there is nothing sudden happening here. If there's a significant amount of radon in your basement, there probably has been as long as the basement has existed.

So, if the soil in your area contains enough uranium, it might be worth checking for radon; inhaling the gas is a meaningful health risk. On the other hand, I can't imagine going the trouble and expense of running a continuous detector unless a local problem has been identified. That's just my take on it.

A trailer is the ultimate solution - no way for radon to accumulate under that floor!
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Did you click on the map, it shows radon as be prevalent in more that 30 states, at levels deemed unhealthy. and with our cancer deaths rising there must be a relationship.
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Ann Coulter - March 16, 2011 - A GLOWING REPORT ON RADIATION

For a slightly different perspective. (Let the flaming begin)
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Did you click on the map, it shows radon as be prevalent in more that 30 states, at levels deemed unhealthy.
Yes, I looked the map. It doesn't say there are radon problems everywhere in 30 states; it shows counties in Zone 1 representing a minority of the area of the U.S., and even within those counties not every location is the same.

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and with our cancer deaths rising there must be a relationship.
No, if rates are rising, it would not rationally be due to radon, which has existed at the same levels (other than in areas affected by improperly handled waste of activity such as uranium processing) for much longer than humans have existed. The radon risk is relatively newly recognized (the last few decades), but the risk is not new.

I was not aware of the number radon detectors which are now available to consumers. The potential market for those certainly seems to me to be a likely reason for testing to be encouraged.
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Just the person I'd look toward for unbiased reporting...
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