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03-09-2021, 09:46 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,213
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Good timing; congrats!!
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03-09-2021, 10:20 PM
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#22
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan4
Since your truck has the max tow package, I would think you can try towing without any WDH. You will have a higher towing capacity, and a higher max tongue weight than I do.
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The max tow package may increase GCWR to enable a higher trailer weight, and with most vehicles the tongue weight rating just goes up with that, regardless of the actual ability to handle weight on the hitch; it may also include equipment (hitch, brake controller) that won't matter to tongue weight. Payload packages are more relevant to tongue weight, since they typically increase rear axle capacity and suspension stiffness.
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03-09-2021, 10:43 PM
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#23
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
The max tow package may increase GCWR to enable a higher trailer weight, and with most vehicles the tongue weight rating just goes up with that, regardless of the actual ability to handle weight on the hitch; it may also include equipment (hitch, brake controller) that won't matter to tongue weight. Payload packages are more relevant to tongue weight, since they typically increase rear axle capacity and suspension stiffness.
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That's very true. It's more a function of payload. But my guess is he can try it without the WDH and see how it goes.
Sorry my brain's a little fried. Just spent the last hour on the Escape Owners Facebook page with a new owner, explaining that no, you can't run your air conditioning using the inverter.
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03-09-2021, 11:32 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan4
... But my guess is he can try it without the WDH and see how it goes.
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I agree
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03-13-2021, 09:04 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
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So, there were 4 trucks, all 2020s, all with similar equipment. None of the deals worked out. The dealers who had them didn't respond at all to my dealers inquiries. Wound up having to order a truck again. This will be the 3rd truck in a row that I've ordered. The good news is, Ford Credit will extend my current lease as long as is needed until the new truck arrives. Just had to call and give them the order number.
I'll miss out on the larger rebate of the 2020, but at least it'll be the exact truck I want.
If you're in the market for an F150 XLT with a V8, max tow package, max payload package and 4WD, there are hundreds to choose from in Texas alone. If you want the Lariat 4x2 SuperCrew with an Ecoboost V6, good luck finding it right now on a dealer lot.
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07-04-2021, 02:37 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
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And, finally, only 4 months late, my truck arrived. Ford extended the lease on the old one hassle free. And my dealer did some creative work with the lease return to give me what amounted to a nice discount on the new one. It essentially involved me exercising the purchase option on the leased truck, and immediately trading it in to the dealer. It worked because the used truck market is very hot right now and my leased truck was worth far more than the residual. Through this paperwork sleight of hand I actually got equity on a leased vehicle. Nice.
Some of the bells and whistles are in different places on this new one, and the pro trailer backup assist is also a bit different, so it will take some getting used to.
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07-04-2021, 02:43 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: DFW, Texas
Trailer: 2018 21 Sept 7 2018
Posts: 1,073
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Sweet ride. May you have many enjoyable trips with it .
David
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07-04-2021, 02:44 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Austin, Texas
Trailer: 2019 5.0TA "Junior", 2019 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi
Posts: 1,600
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Ah, that new truck smell....congrats! Love a white truck with a shiny white Escape.
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07-04-2021, 05:39 PM
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#29
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: East of Austin, Texas
Trailer: 2021 Escape 5.0 / 2022 F150 SuperCab
Posts: 2,912
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Congrats, looks sharp! Wishing you many more happy miles
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07-04-2021, 07:25 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: St Augustine, Florida
Trailer: 5.0 TA Delivered 4/7/22
Posts: 925
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very nice ride! Congrats
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07-04-2021, 07:32 PM
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#31
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Trailer: 2021 Escape E5.0; 2021 F150 PowerBoost
Posts: 1,192
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Is that a 2021? Mine looks exactly like this. The white color makes a nice match with the camper.
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07-04-2021, 07:58 PM
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#32
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
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Yes, new Lariat.
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07-08-2021, 01:27 PM
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#33
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee
Trailer: 2015 Escape 21'
Posts: 280
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Nice truck. I'm a 4x4 guy, but I love the stance of the 2 wheel drive........
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