What happened to Winter this year?

[Allan Bornestig]

The daffodils are late this year, but the tulips are up four inches, go figure.

[Iowa Dave]

It got up to 38 this afternoon in Eastern Iowa. Had full sun all day and generated 58 kWh with the solar. Snow is going away. Cardinals are pairing up. Seeds have been received, Making a few reservations as dates open. Won’t be long now.
Iowa Dave

[cpaharley2008]

Dave,
Will you be in Osoyoos this May for the Escape Rally in the Valley meet? We will be in #166 I believe, hope to see you there.....

[Iowa Dave]

Not this year Jim. I have some family commitments at that same time. Hope you and Noelia have a great time. Don’t push your timeline too hard.
Iowa Dave

[cpaharley2008]

I'll try, I have allowed 3 nights on the road with 4th day arrivals both out and back!

[Ron in BC]

And no side trips to California requiring an early departure I hope.

Ron

[cpaharley2008]

Originally Posted by Ron in BC

And no side trips to California requiring an early departure I hope.

Ron

No side trips is correct as we will not be having Noelia's sister along to help with driving, she lives there.....!

[Lorraine Pittsburgh]

Originally Posted by Vermilye

While there is still only an inch or so of snow on the ground, I woke up to -8°F this morning. Coldest it has been in years here in Oswego...

Oh, Jon, & you so don't like cold winter weather!

[escape artist]

One hardly used light weight snow blower. I can scoop up the snow easier with a shovel if we ever get some!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie

[TTMartin]

Originally Posted by escape artist

One hardly used light weight snow blower. I can scoop up the snow easier with a shovel if we ever get some!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie

You might want to hold on to that.

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Detroit/Pontiac MI
306 PM EST Mon Jan 8 2024

MIZ068>070-075-076-082-083-090930-
/O.NEW.KDTX.WW.Y.0001.240109T0900Z-240109T1600Z/
Livingston-Oakland-Macomb-Washtenaw-Wayne-Lenawee-Monroe-
Including the cities of Howell, Pontiac, Warren, Ann Arbor,
Detroit, Adrian, and Monroe
306 PM EST Mon Jan 8 2024

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 4 AM TO 11 AM EST
TUESDAY...

* WHAT...Wet snow expected. Total snow accumulations of 2 to 4
inches. Isolated totals to 5 inches.

* WHERE...Livingston, Oakland, Macomb, Washtenaw, Wayne, Lenawee
and Monroe Counties.

* WHEN...From 4 AM to 11 AM EST Tuesday.

* IMPACTS...Plan on slippery road conditions. The hazardous
conditions will impact the morning commute.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...A burst of heavy, wet snow is expected to
lead to rapid accumulations Tuesday morning. The combination
with strong wind gusts up to 35 mph could result in some downed
tree limbs and sporadic power outages. Rising temperatures will
cause snow to change to rain by late morning.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

Slow down and use caution while traveling.

&&

$$
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Detroit/Pontiac MI
306 PM EST Mon Jan 8 2024

MIZ053-060-061-090930-
/O.NEW.KDTX.WW.Y.0001.240109T0900Z-240109T2100Z/
Saginaw-Shiawassee-Genesee-
Including the cities of Saginaw, Owosso, and Flint
306 PM EST Mon Jan 8 2024

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 4 AM TO 4 PM EST
TUESDAY...

* WHAT...Snow expected. Total snow accumulations of 1 to 4
inches. Winds gusting as high as 35 mph.

* WHERE...Saginaw, Shiawassee and Genesee Counties.

* WHEN...From 4 AM to 4 PM EST Tuesday.

* IMPACTS...Plan on slippery road conditions. The hazardous
conditions will impact the morning commute.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...A burst of heavy, wet snow is expected to
lead to rapid accumulations Tuesday morning. The combination
with strong wind gusts up to 35 mph could result in some downed
tree limbs and sporadic power outages. Rising temperatures will
cause snow to change to rain during the afternoon.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

Slow down and use caution while traveling.

&&

$$
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Detroit/Pontiac MI
306 PM EST Mon Jan 8 2024

MIZ047-048-090930-
/O.UPG.KDTX.WS.A.0001.240109T0900Z-240110T0900Z/
/O.NEW.KDTX.WW.Y.0001.240109T0900Z-240110T0900Z/
Midland-Bay-
Including the cities of Midland and Bay City
306 PM EST Mon Jan 8 2024

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 4 AM TUESDAY TO 4 AM
EST WEDNESDAY...

* WHAT...Snow expected. Total snow accumulations of 3 to 5 inches.

* WHERE...Midland and Bay Counties.

* WHEN...From 4 AM Tuesday to 4 AM EST Wednesday.

* IMPACTS...Plan on slippery road conditions. The hazardous
conditions will impact the morning and evening commute.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...A burst of heavy, wet snow is expected to
lead to rapid accumulations Tuesday morning. The combination
with strong wind gusts up to 35 mph could result in some downed
tree limbs and sporadic power outages. Rising temperatures will
likely cause snow to mix with or change to rain during the
afternoon, but low confidence exists that snow, possibly heavy,
will continue through Tuesday evening.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

Slow down and use caution while traveling.

&&

$$
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Gaylord MI
314 PM EST Mon Jan 8 2024

MIZ032>035-041-090415-
/O.UPG.KAPX.WS.A.0001.240109T1200Z-240110T1200Z/
/O.NEW.KAPX.WW.Y.0001.240109T0900Z-240110T1500Z/
Wexford-Missaukee-Roscommon-Ogemaw-Gladwin-
Including the cities of Cadillac, Lake City, Houghton Lake,
West Branch, and Gladwin
314 PM EST Mon Jan 8 2024

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 4 AM TUESDAY TO 10 AM
EST WEDNESDAY...

* WHAT...Wet, dense snow accumulations expected. Total snow
accumulations of 3 to 6 inches, with the greatest amounts
favoring the higher elevations of interior northern lower
Michigan. Winds gusting as high as 35 mph.

* WHERE...Wexford, Missaukee, Roscommon, Ogemaw and Gladwin
Counties.

* WHEN...From 4 AM Tuesday to 10 AM EST Wednesday.

* IMPACTS...Plan on slippery road conditions. The hazardous
conditions could impact the Tuesday morning and evening
commute.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

Slow down and use caution while traveling.

&&

$$
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Gaylord MI
314 PM EST Mon Jan 8 2024

MIZ024-030-036-042-090415-
/O.UPG.KAPX.WS.A.0001.240109T1200Z-240110T1200Z/
/O.NEW.KAPX.WW.Y.0001.240109T1200Z-240110T1200Z/
Alpena-Alcona-Iosco-Arenac-
Including the cities of Alpena, Harrisville, Tawas City,
and Standish
314 PM EST Mon Jan 8 2024

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 7 AM TUESDAY TO 7 AM
EST WEDNESDAY...

* WHAT...Snow expected. Total snow accumulations of up to 4 inches
away from Lake Huron and Saginaw Bay, with lesser amounts
closer to the immediate shoreline. Winds gusting as high as 35
mph.

* WHERE...Alpena, Alcona, Iosco and Arenac Counties.

* WHEN...From 7 AM Tuesday to 7 AM EST Wednesday.

* IMPACTS...Plan on slippery road conditions. The hazardous
conditions could impact the Tuesday morning and evening
commutes.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

Slow down and use caution while traveling.

&&

$$

http://www.weather.gov/gaylord
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Grand Rapids MI
251 PM EST Mon Jan 8 2024

MIZ050>052-056>059-090400-
/O.NEW.KGRR.WW.Y.0001.240109T0800Z-240109T2100Z/
Muskegon-Montcalm-Gratiot-Ottawa-Kent-Ionia-Clinton-
Including the cities of Muskegon, Greenville, Alma, Grand Haven,
Jenison, Grand Rapids, Ionia, and St. Johns
251 PM EST Mon Jan 8 2024

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 3 AM TO 4 PM EST
TUESDAY...

* WHAT...Snow expected. Total snow accumulations of 2 to 4 inches.

* WHERE...Portions of central, south central, southwest and west
central Michigan.

* WHEN...From 3 AM to 4 PM EST Tuesday.

* IMPACTS...Plan on slippery road conditions. The hazardous
conditions will impact the morning commute.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Snow will spread into the area after
midnight. The morning commute on Tuesday will be affected by a
heavy wet snow. Expected snow covered and slippery roads Tuesday
morning. Rising temperatures on Tuesday will help road
conditions as will precipitation mixing with and possibly
changing to rain.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

Slow down and use caution while traveling.

&&

$$

www.weather.gov/grr

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URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Grand Rapids MI
251 PM EST Mon Jan 8 2024

MIZ037>040-043>046-090400-
/O.UPG.KGRR.WS.A.0001.240109T0600Z-240110T1200Z/
/O.NEW.KGRR.WW.Y.0001.240109T0900Z-240110T1500Z/
Mason-Lake-Osceola-Clare-Oceana-Newaygo-Mecosta-Isabella-
Including the cities of Ludington, Baldwin, Reed City, Clare,
Hart, Fremont, Big Rapids, and Mount Pleasant
251 PM EST Mon Jan 8 2024

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 4 AM TUESDAY TO 10 AM
EST WEDNESDAY...

* WHAT...Snow expected. Total snow accumulations of 4 to 6 inches.
Isolated higher amounts near 7 inches possible. Winds gusting
as high as 40 mph late Tuesday night and on Wednesday.

* WHERE...Portions of central and west central Michigan.

* WHEN...From 4 AM Tuesday to 10 AM EST Wednesday.

* IMPACTS...Plan on slippery road conditions. The hazardous
conditions will impact both the morning and evening commute.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Snow will begin overnight and be ongoing
Tuesday morning for the commute to work or school. Periods of
snow can be expected to continue into the day on Tuesday before
tapering off some Tuesday night. Some light snow will persist
into the morning on Wednesday. The Wednesday morning commute
could have some lingering impacts as well.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

Slow down and use caution while traveling.

&&

$$
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Grand Rapids MI
251 PM EST Mon Jan 8 2024

MIZ064>067-071>074-090400-
/O.NEW.KGRR.WW.Y.0001.240109T0600Z-240109T1600Z/
Allegan-Barry-Eaton-Ingham-Van Buren-Kalamazoo-Calhoun-Jackson-
Including the cities of Holland, Hastings, Charlotte, Lansing,
South Haven, Kalamazoo, Battle Creek, and Jackson
251 PM EST Mon Jan 8 2024

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 1 AM TO 11 AM EST
TUESDAY...

* WHAT...Wet snow expected. Total snow accumulations of 1 to 3
inches.

* WHERE...Portions of south central and southwest Michigan.

* WHEN...From 1 AM to 11 AM EST Tuesday.

* IMPACTS...Plan on slippery road conditions. The hazardous
conditions will impact the morning commute.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Snow will spread into the area after
midnight. The morning commute on Tuesday will be affected by a
heavy wet snow. Expect snow covered and slippery roads Tuesday
morning. Rising temperatures on Tuesday will help road
conditions as will precipitation mixing with and changing to
rain.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

Slow down and use caution while traveling.

&&

$$
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Northern Indiana
1217 PM EST Mon Jan 8 2024

INZ005>009-012>015-017-018-103-104-116-203-204-216-MIZ078>081-177-
277-OHZ001-002-004-005-015-090130-
/O.CON.KIWX.WW.Y.0001.240109T0600Z-240109T1200Z/
Elkhart-Lagrange-Steuben-Noble-De Kalb-Starke-Pulaski-Marshall-
Fulton IN-Whitley-Allen IN-Northern La Porte-
Eastern St. Joseph IN-Northern Kosciusko-Southern La Porte-
Western St. Joseph IN-Southern Kosciusko-Cass MI-St. Joseph MI-
Branch-Hillsdale-Northern Berrien-Southern Berrien-Williams-
Fulton OH-Defiance-Henry-Paulding-
Including the cities of Elkhart, Goshen, Nappanee, Lagrange,
Topeka, Shipshewana, Angola, Fremont, Kendallville, Ligonier,
Albion, Auburn, Garrett, Knox, North Judson, Bass Lake, Winamac,
Francesville, Medaryville, Plymouth, Bremen, Culver, Rochester,
Akron, Columbia City, Tri-Lakes, South Whitley, Fort Wayne,
New Haven, Michigan City, La Porte, Kingsbury, Fish Lake,
South Bend, Mishawaka, Lakeville, Granger, Syracuse, Milford,
North Webster, Leesburg, Wanatah, La Crosse, Union Mills,
North Liberty, New Carlisle, Walkerton, Warsaw, Winona Lake,
Silver Lake, Mentone, Dowagiac, Cassopolis, Edwardsburg,
Marcellus, Sturgis, Three Rivers, White Pigeon, Mendon,
Coldwater, Bronson, Hillsdale, Jonesville, Litchfield,
Benton Harbor, St. Joseph, Paw Paw Lake, Niles, New Buffalo,
Stevensville, Berrien Springs, Bryan, Montpelier, Edgerton,
Wauseon, Archbold, Swanton, Delta, Defiance, Sherwood,
Hicksville, Napoleon, Deshler, Liberty Center, Paulding, Antwerp,
and Payne
1217 PM EST Mon Jan 8 2024 /1117 AM CST Mon Jan 8 2024/

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 1 AM EST
/MIDNIGHT CST/ TO 7 AM EST /6 AM CST/ TUESDAY...

* WHAT...Snow expected. Total snow accumulations of 2 to 4 inches.
Gusty east to southeasterly winds up to 35 mph.

* WHERE...Portions of northern Indiana, southwest Michigan and
northwest Ohio.

* WHEN...From 1 AM EST /midnight CST/ to 7 AM EST /6 AM CST/
Tuesday.

* IMPACTS...Plan on slippery road conditions. The hazardous
conditions could impact the morning commute.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

Slow down and use caution while traveling.

&&

$$

[escape artist]

Hi: TTMartin... Thanks for the weather note. We seem to be situated in a rather snow proof corridor as the approach of systems from the S. west split at the W. end of Lake Erie and go north of us and south of the lake. Our nightmare is a strong south wind across the open waters of Lake Erie. A real dumper!!!
My snow removal equipment is near rusted to the garage floor. Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie

[TTMartin]

Originally Posted by escape artist

Hi: TTMartin... Thanks for the weather note. We seem to be situated in a rather snow proof corridor as the approach of systems from the S. west split at the W. end of Lake Erie and go north of us and south of the lake. Our nightmare is a strong south wind across the open waters of Lake Erie. A real dumper!!!
My snow removal equipment is near rusted to the garage floor. Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie

Better get out your PB BLASTER!

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Cleveland OH
409 AM EST Tue Jan 9 2024

PAZ001-002-091715-
/O.CON.KCLE.HW.W.0001.240109T1500Z-240110T0300Z/
Northern Erie-Southern Erie-
Including the cities of Erie, Edinboro, Corry, and Union City
409 AM EST Tue Jan 9 2024

...HIGH WIND WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 10 AM THIS MORNING TO
10 PM EST THIS EVENING...

* WHAT...Southeast winds 30 to 40 mph with gusts up to 65 mph
expected.

* WHERE...Northern Erie and Southern Erie Counties.

* WHEN...From 10 AM this morning to 10 PM EST this evening.

* IMPACTS...Damaging winds will blow down trees and power lines.
Widespread power outages are expected. Travel will be
difficult, especially for high profile vehicles.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...The highest wind gusts will occur along and
north of Interstates 86 and 90 in Erie County, Pennsylvania.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

People should avoid being outside in forested areas and around
trees and branches. If possible, remain in the lower levels of
your home during the windstorm, and avoid windows. Use caution if
you must drive.

&&

$$

[escape artist]

Hi: TTMartin... "It's raining, it's snowing" and that's only the last 5 minutes. The plow went by peppering the road with salt!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie

[marsman]

WOW!! We haven't had any snow this year; had a green Xmas here in Ontario and this morning I woke up to a foot of heavy snow with drift is the backyard up to 3 feet deep! Took my wife and I 2 hours to clean it all up and that's with a large 13hp snow blower - to add insult to injury,. we're forecast to get another 6" this weekend- bring it on, we leave for the southern states on the 29th so we'll be out of here!!!!

[HABBERDABBER]

Wisconsin Winter returns, a bit late, but now with a vengeance. December we had a couple of dinky 2"-3" snows, record warmth, and now the real deal. 6" of snow Tuesday, 3" or so last night, a storm starting tonight with 8"-12" predicted and 40 MPH winds. Then a good, long spell of sub-zero temps.
Snowmageddon!
Time to stock up with necessary vittles before the storm hits.

[Jim Bennett]

Originally Posted by escape artist

One hardly used light weight snow blower. I can scoop up the snow easier with a shovel if we ever get some!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie

If you want winter weather head out here, Alf. Forecast high for tomorrow is -32ºC. We have snow and it isn't about to thaw.

[Mike G]

I saw this meme today.... so true.

[escape artist]

Originally Posted by Jim Bennett

If you want winter weather head out here, Alf. Forecast high for tomorrow is -32ºC. We have snow and it isn't about to thaw.

Hi: Jim Bennett... It's a good thing Rye Whiskey http://fortycreekwhisky.comwon't freeze. It will slo down though!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie

[Jim Bennett]

Originally Posted by escape artist

Hi: Jim Bennett... It's a good thing Rye Whiskey http://fortycreekwhisky.comwon't freeze. It will slo down though!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie

I don't mind Forty Creek but do have bottles of whiskey much better. And they do freeze. On one backcountry ski trip I did many years ago it was below -40° at night. I had brought a container of rum to add to hot drinks and fortunately I put it in a wide mouthed Nalgene container because it had turned to a very hard slush. Shoulda brought the higher ABV stuff,

[Buddy]

-40 here this morning, if you’re missing winter, I’d like to return it to you.