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Old 06-10-2023, 07:41 AM   #1
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New option for US pick up

Got an email yesterday; No discount or price difference just convenience

Hi there,

We are excited to offer a new pick-up process for our US customers. Instead of having to pick up in Sumas, WA, you can now pick up directly from our facility in Chilliwack, BC. You would be able to view your trailer and pick it up at the same time, eliminating the need for a separate viewing and delivery appointment. This would also eliminate the need for extra accommodations, saving you money. Escape would provide you with all the required documentation needed to export the trailer yourself. You would not have to pay any of our provincial taxes ( you would still need to pay your state taxes )

If this is something that interests you, or you have any other questions please let me know!

Alicia Gregorowich
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43851 Industrial Way
Chilliwack BC , V2R 4L2
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Old 06-10-2023, 08:54 AM   #2
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Last January we took our used Bigfoot we purchased on Vancouver Island across the border. It took about 15 minutes from the time we parked at the US border, enter the building, have the papers stamped/approved to finish crossing. As long as you have the ETI signed Bill of Sale, form 7501 (Entry Summary), and form HS-7 (Declaration) you're golden.

Those above forms were in the ACE Manafest we received from ETI when we purchased our 5.0 in October, 2018.

Before we even left to pick up the camper last January, I went to Minnesota's Department of Motor Vehicles and had them print out the necessary documents needed from their instructions and presented those documents at the April registration. Due Diligence!

Trailer registration in Minnesota last April with those forms was Eazy Peazy. It took about 15 minutes to walk out with plates.


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Old 06-10-2023, 09:10 AM   #3
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I hope we get this offer.
How far out is your pick up date?
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Last January we took our used Bigfoot we purchased on Vancouver Island across the border. It took about 15 minutes from the time we parked at the US border, enter the building, have the papers stamped/approved to finish crossing. As long as you have the ETI signed Bill of Sale, form 7501 (Entry Summary), and form HS-7 (Declaration) you're golden...

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Perry, I read that MN law now will pay you up to $1500 toward a new ebike. Sounds like it's a great deal for Minnesotans who like to pedal. Are you going to take advantage?
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Old 06-10-2023, 09:57 AM   #5
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Perry, I read that MN law now will pay you up to $1500 toward a new ebike. Sounds like it's a great deal for Minnesotans who like to pedal. Are you going to take advantage?
Our Terns were purchased in 2021 and 2022, so no state money. Thanks for the tip though.

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Old 06-10-2023, 10:01 AM   #6
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I hope we get this offer.
How far out is your pick up date?

The end of June, getting very close. 2 1/2 weeks.
We are sticking with the Sumas pick up. Due to other travel plans we already set up it is more convenient to pick up in Sumas.
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The end of June, getting very close. 2 1/2 weeks.
We are sticking with the Sumas pick up. Due to other travel plans we already set up it is more convenient to pick up in Sumas.
Are you staying overnight at Bobs burgers? Its a nice overnight, and the dairy place across and down the street serves a good milkshake!
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Old 06-10-2023, 10:38 AM   #8
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Well that's certainly a great improvement for some in the pickup process.

A lot more efficient and the opportunity to inspect your trailer before it's even left ETI.

Also eliminates the little bit of apprehension some folks have about picking up in Sumas and then coming back into Canada.

I'm sure that a lot of folks will take advantage of this new option.

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Old 06-10-2023, 01:22 PM   #9
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Hmmm...
I wonder how Escape will continue to justify charging US customers a higher price if the company no longer sells in the US or exports trailers to the US.
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Old 06-10-2023, 02:44 PM   #10
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So I'm extremely curious if this pick up option is for all US customers or just CA. It's been a known fact for a while now that CA is trying to force Escape to collect sales tax for all CA sales. If the pick up point is now in Canada versus Sumas does this somehow take the winds out of California's demand. Don't know just a thought that passed by when I read this.
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Old 06-10-2023, 05:49 PM   #11
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Hmmm...
I wonder how Escape will continue to justify charging US customers a higher price if the company no longer sells in the US or exports trailers to the US.
ETI is still exporting the trailer to the US and paying the customs brokerage etc. to clear it in.

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ETI is still exporting the trailer to the US and paying the customs brokerage etc. to clear it in.

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When I picked up my 19 and then my 21 I paid a 250 dollar customs clearing fee to Escape. This fee was them to do the clearing paperwork and the physical clearing at the border. There are no other out of pocket fees that Escape pays to bring the trailer to Sumas. With this new delivery process it sounds like they still complete the paperwork but the new owner now needs to physically clear the trailer through customs at the border. It's a win/win for Escape as now they no longer have to pay a delivery driver to take the trailer through customs and to the drop off at Bob's.
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Old 06-10-2023, 07:15 PM   #13
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ETI is still exporting the trailer to the US and paying the customs brokerage etc. to clear it in.

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The message from ETI quoted in Post #1 says ETI will provide necessary documentation so that you can export the trailer yourself.

It is my understanding that previously ETI exported the trailer and the final paperwork for change of ownership took place in Sumas. Now the change of ownership (sale) takes place in Chilliwack and the buyer exports the trailer if they choose to.
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Old 06-11-2023, 11:02 AM   #14
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Now the change of ownership (sale) takes place in Chilliwack and the buyer exports the trailer if they choose to.
I'm not seeing how this is possible. I could see that happening if the US buyer shows up with a license plate and insurance as some folks in some states have been able to do.

But for those without plates or insurance even the drive to the border would be problematic. The fine for no vehicle insurance is $598. Any police officer that sees a trailer without a plate is going to pull it over. No insurance is no insurance no matter what the reason. If that happens then the trailer will be towed to an impound yard until the owner can show proof of insurance.

It might be possible to get to get temporary insurance but since the trailer wouldn't be registered that might not work.

Not sure how this option will unfold.

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Old 06-11-2023, 11:32 AM   #15
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ETI is still exporting the trailer to the US and paying the customs brokerage etc. to clear it in.

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Sounds like they are only preparing the paperwork and saving money by not hiring a driver to actually do the importing. Before the VIN snafu there was no customs brokerage; then Reace & Tammy had no choice but to use a third-party broker to facilitate the Border crossing into the U.S.

In any event it is pretty interesting that all of a sudden this option is being offered. What changed?

Regarding insurance- with AAA my new purchase is automatically covered for 30 days. Not all insurance carriers do this, however AAA does.
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Old 06-11-2023, 12:28 PM   #16
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Regarding insurance- with AAA my new purchase is automatically covered for 30 days. Not all insurance carriers do this, however AAA does.
That's convenient in one aspect. But, in BC, the license plate is renewed yearly along with the required insurance. So a trailer without a displayed permit or license plate would likely still be pulled over. Whether the police officer would waive the lack of a license or permit and accept that the trailer was insured would be the question.

Given my previous experience I wouldn't use a vehicle in BC without a permit or license and insurance. The fine is roughly equivalent to the cost of two years insurance.

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Old 06-11-2023, 12:29 PM   #17
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I'm not seeing how this is possible. I could see that happening if the US buyer shows up with a license plate and insurance as some folks in some states have been able to do.

But for those without plates or insurance even the drive to the border would be problematic. The fine for no vehicle insurance is $598. Any police officer that sees a trailer without a plate is going to pull it over. No insurance is no insurance no matter what the reason. If that happens then the trailer will be towed to an impound yard until the owner can show proof of insurance.

It might be possible to get to get temporary insurance but since the trailer wouldn't be registered that might not work.

Not sure how this option will unfold.

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Temporary insurance and registration are available through the BC provincial agency. I purchased it for one day when I bought my trailer used in BC. All that I needed was a bill of sale. That got me to the border to import the trailer to the US. After that I was on my home state requirements. The insurance was a duplicate of my own policy, but I needed the temporary registration.

The message from ETI to the original post is that the company will not be involved in collecting any taxes or fees... once you are out the door it is up to the buyer to do all that and export the trailer themselves.

What strikes me as a scam is that an American buyer travels to Canada to purchase the trailer, no export is involved at that point and ETI will not be doing the export in any case. But that buyer is not allowed to obtain Canadian $ on the open market to pay for the trailer. They have to pay in US $ at the exchange rate dictated by ETI. Adding $3,000 or so to the price of the trailer. And with the new pick up policy they can't claim the additional charge has anything to do with exporting and selling in the US.

It would be as if a Canadian traveled to the US and purchased something using $US. But when the store saw the buyer was Canadian they said, "You can't use those $US here. You can only use $US you get through us, at the rate we charge."

ETI found a way to tack on a high exchange rate fee when selling in the US. Probably most buyers were not aware of the cost of this exchange rate compared to other exchange markets. They most likely figured they were getting a fair or competitive rate from ETI.
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That's convenient in one aspect. But, in BC, the license plate is renewed yearly along with the required insurance. So a trailer without a displayed permit or license plate would likely still be pulled over. Whether the police officer would waive the lack of a license or permit and accept that the trailer was insured would be the question.

Given my previous experience I wouldn't use a vehicle in BC without a permit or license and insurance. The fine is roughly equivalent to the cost of two years insurance.

Ron
One thing to remember: liability insurance while towing a trailer flows from the tow vehicle- at least in the U.S.

Regarding registration- this has been discussed as nauseam for the last ten years at least. No one has ever reported a problem, yet some people still worry about it.
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Not in BC. The trailer is a separate vehicle.

We used to have a decal on the license plate that showed the current date. That's been done away with because the police cars now have license plate scanners that show if the trailer has current insurance.

The absence of any trailer license would automatically trigger being pulled over. The only way that I can see that a person could pick up at ETI and drive to the border without incident is the two ways mentioned previously, either a temporary BC permit or having the plate from your home state on the trailer.

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Old 06-11-2023, 05:19 PM   #20
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No, travel trailer insurance is not required by law in Canada. Since a travel trailer is non-motorized, it does not have the same insurance needs. Therefore, you are legally allowed to use your travel trailer without an insurance policy, so long as it is being towed by an insured and registered vehicle.Jun 26, 2022

https://www.brokerlink.ca/blog/do-i-...ered%20vehicle.
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