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Old 07-07-2019, 08:43 PM   #1
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17B making permanent bed - is there an easier way!

We have a 17B with permanent twin bed. Does anyone have any tips on an easier way to make this bed up. We seem to struggle on this task!

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Old 07-07-2019, 11:27 PM   #2
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I have a 30 inch wide bed in the front of my 17A, which I believe is the same as what you're addressing. I altered a twin fitted sheet so it fits (easy sewing), covered the inflatable mattress with a flat mattress pad with elastic sewn in the corners so it stays put. I have a sleeping bag in a duvet cover on top...it's folded in half lengthwise during the day with a small quilt on top, and unfolded as a blanket at night. To make in the morning, fold duvet in half and cover.
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Old 07-07-2019, 11:40 PM   #3
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My bad - the mattress is not a twin it is a full I believe it’s around 54”. It’s really tough to get the fitted sheets on the side near the back window. I’m sure someone has come up with a great way to fit the sheet properly.

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With the queen bed in the E19 we bent the edges to install the fitted sheets.
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Check out 3/4 size sheets.
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Old 07-08-2019, 11:05 AM   #6
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My 17b doesn’t have the permanent bed but my friend’s 17 b does and she had a terrIble time with the fitted sheet. I tried to help and gave up. She finally opted to use a flat sheet instead and just tuck it in around the sides without worrying about getting it under the mattress. She says that the sheet stays put because the mattress is tight against the wall and holds it in place.
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My bad - the mattress is not a twin it is a full I believe it’s around 54”. It’s really tough to get the fitted sheets on the side near the back window. I’m sure someone has come up with a great way to fit the sheet properly.

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Unless they changed the dinette space from what it was in my 2011 17B, the widest permanent bed that fits is 48" wide. 3/4 sheets are 48" X 75". I made a permanent bed and used these.
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Old 07-09-2019, 02:08 PM   #8
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In my Hauley, I use a 2" memory foam topper on top of some other foam (total 6") in lieu of a regular mattress. So I put the fitted sheet on the 2" thick topper and that's it. It stays put just fine, although it fits a tad loosely of course. Very easy to move the topper around or bend it back on itself to attach the sheet & then flop it into place, and no need to crawl back on top of the bed for that sheet.
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Re the Escape website, beds in current 17A and 17B

Front bed 52"X77" (Plan A)
Front bed / dinette 30"x77" (Plan B)
Rear bed / dinette 52" X 77"
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We have a 17B with permanent twin bed. Does anyone have any tips on an easier way to make this bed up. We seem to struggle on this task!

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When using fitted sheets, start by climbing on the bed. First tuck the fitted sheet around the far corner, stretch sheet to put around other far corner. Climb of the bed and pull fitted sheet toward you. Fit sheet around hardest to reach (3th) corner. Final corner: lift up mattress a bit to get sheet around the last corner.
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Old 05-31-2020, 01:21 PM   #11
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Are they putting a 52" mattress in that fits exactly, or a full size (54" that is squeezed in? And if the former, could you fit a soft 54" mattress into the space?
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Old 06-01-2020, 07:28 PM   #12
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We have a 17B with dinette front and back. Set up the back to a permanent bed and just use the front dinette. DW made a king size duvet which is perfect for the bed when folded in half. Instant top and bottom sheet. Just tuck it in at the foot to keep it in place and good to go.
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Old 06-02-2020, 10:48 AM   #13
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How do you maintain access to the storage and utilities areas with a permanent bed in the rear?
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Old 06-02-2020, 11:18 AM   #14
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For us it is not a problem. We use the standard cushions with a topper. They are easy to remove for access.


One bonus is that we can slide 4 milk crates under the table surface opening for extra storage.
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Old 06-02-2020, 12:15 PM   #15
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I"m trying to decide if there is an advantage to a permanent bed over just removing the cushions and putting a mattress in. Doors on the storage? They kind of look small. Are there any other differences?
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Old 06-02-2020, 12:32 PM   #16
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We just use the cushions with a topper. Not as comfortable as a proper mattress I suspect. We have four collapsible containers that slide under the table part. If we had the same with doors for access, we would have to use smaller bins and access wouldn't be as easy.
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Bobbie, I have struggled with this too. Optimally one can sleep upfront but w a dog crowding a human it is too small. If the dog would sleep on the floor I could do it easily which then leaves the big table up for extra cooking prep space etc because that area is really large. But, for me, I bought a 3 ď memory foam from Walmart, placed on top of the big dinette cushions. This seems to work okay as the old thick geezer rei inflatable wasnít cutting it anymore.

I would much prefer sleeping in the front & having the large rear dinette for whatever. Oh well! Also, you want easy access to your water heater, converter & water pump so I recommend no permanent bed. I find itís relatively easy to fold up memory foam & take out driver side cushions for access.
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Ps take donnaís advice & get 4 cf frig. I didnít. 😕
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Bobbie, I have struggled with this too. Optimally one can sleep upfront but w a dog crowding a human it is too small. If the dog would sleep on the floor I could do it easily which then leaves the big table up for extra cooking prep space etc because that area is really large. But, for me, I bought a 3 ď memory foam from Walmart, placed on top of the big dinette cushions. This seems to work okay as the old thick geezer rei inflatable wasnít cutting it anymore.

I would much prefer sleeping in the front & having the large rear dinette for whatever. Oh well! Also, you want easy access to your water heater, converter & water pump so I recommend no permanent bed. I find itís relatively easy to fold up memory foam & take out driver side cushions for access.
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Ps take donnaís advice & get 4 cf frig. I didnít. 😕
Definitely 4 cf fridge.

I can't sleep on foam over the cushions so either way I'd put a mattress in. I did have a tri-fold memory foam mattress I used for awhile which gave easier access but it was not sufficiently comfortable. And my dogs will not sleep on the floor, either. But in case of thunder, fireworks, etc, someone always wants to go under the bed which is a good reason to have a dinette. The bad part is storing those cushions I'm not using.

I measured my mattress and it should fit the slightly smaller space in the 17b and it is squishy enough that in a pinch I can push it up and access the bench hatches. But I want outside access hatches so that is no longer an issue most of the time.

So still a little iffy. The dogs would like the under dinette space more than the cupboard under bed space- but I'd rather have a solid platform than have it rest on the table.
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We have the 17B with factory rear bed, inner spring mattress. We use a fitted bottom sheet for a double bed. It's very comfortable. Having slept on a dining table covered with foam cushions we decided a real mattress was what we wanted for extended trips. We slept on it for two months coming home last summer from the factory and were very appreciative of it. It's also suitable to lounge, read, watch the tv that's mounted at the foot of the bed.
The two factory cabinet doors allow access to two large storage bins we keep some of our clothes in.
We also have a factory installed access door on the outside we use to put our folding lawn chairs etc in there.
Further access can be gained by lifting up the mattress to open a large hinged door.
To service the hot water tank (like remove it) a few wood screws would need to be removed.
All the fuses, 12V power switch etc have all been repositioned by the factory under the passenger side front dinette seat.
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Old 06-03-2020, 11:45 AM   #20
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For us it is not a problem. We use the standard cushions with a topper. They are easy to remove for access.


One bonus is that we can slide 4 milk crates under the table surface opening for extra storage.
Right, we do something similar. My question was about acessing storage and utilities with a perminant bed installation.
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