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Old 11-11-2017, 06:34 PM   #61
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Thanks as always for prompt and useful advice, and I will heed it. Don't want to bust a gut!
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Old 11-22-2017, 03:40 PM   #62
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Tubing under Escape freezing

We have an Escape 21. I think the tubing running under the trailer goes to the sink. If I leave the sink faucet open (pump off and not connected to city water), would that protect the tubing if it freezes? (We have the under trailer insulation, but I'm not sure how much this helps.)
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Old 11-22-2017, 03:45 PM   #63
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We have an Escape 21. I think the tubing running under the trailer goes to the sink. If I leave the sink faucet open (pump off and not connected to city water), would that protect the tubing if it freezes? (We have the under trailer insulation, but I'm not sure how much this helps.)
Yes, this helps. By having an open faucet, the freezing water has a place to expand. Water expands when it freezes, and it is this expansion which causes pipes to burst or fittings to fail.

But this technique is not foolproof. It is still possible, for example, for a section of pipe to freeze both in front of and behind another unfrozen section. Then when the middle section goes to freeze, it is trapped and cannot expand.

The only real way to avoid freezing/bursting pipes is to evacuate all the water with air pressure, or replace pure water with anti-freeze which lowers the temperatures at which freezing occurs (to like -20 or -50F, depending on which type used).

It is a matter of weighing the risk of pipe or fitting failure, which could be inside a wall or other "very" hard to reach location, against the effort to winterize. All in the window of how likely to freeze: temperature, is it enclosed, do you have the insulation, is there a heat source, etc.
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Old 11-22-2017, 04:45 PM   #64
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I live in Montreal. Winters are cold. I did not take any chances. I evacuated all the water throughout the trailer pipes with air pressure and pumped -50C anti-freeze for added safety.
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Old 11-28-2017, 02:03 PM   #65
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We have camped in our 19' down to -6 several times. And not necessarily because we love the cold - it just was a cold snap while we were travelling on Vancouver Island and once up north! Naturally, any external water hose will freeze overnight. If you're not storing any water in the tanks, nor using the toilet, then it's feasible to use the trailer in winter. However, any water in water lines in the trailer will be subject to freezing overnight unless you keep the interior warmer than freezing. And freezing water in the pump could be expensive! To prevent this my suggestion is to open the interior doors under the bed just a bit to allow warmer air to circulate around the pump to prevent freezing. Anything in the black/grey water tanks will freeze and stay there till you get to someplace warmer.
The interior temperature of the trailer was comfortable with the insulation, however. Not toasty, but ok. Except for that cold zone about 20 cm above the floor level where the colder air settles. Plus you'll get LOTS of condensation between the bed/dinette cushions and the wall.
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