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Old 11-19-2018, 11:07 AM   #21
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Thanks for the suggestion. I like this option and will consider it.
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Old 11-19-2018, 11:12 AM   #22
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Agree. That’s my plan right now. Just pull the screws and reset them in the holes after removing the strut. I also asked ETI to not install the strut and they were reluctant to do so. Their position is the strut comes installed and I can remove it if I wish. So, I wrote on my build sheet the request to not install the strut in case their policy changes. Our 5.0 is not being built until early next summer so their policy may change by then. If not, removing a few screws is no big deal.
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Old 11-19-2018, 11:43 AM   #23
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On my 2016 Escape I replaced the stock door holder with an extended one to prevent the door hitting the frameless awning window, it was plastic but now they offer metal in 6" lengths, will 6 " work or the 10" plastic https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C9BY7GK...02_03_t_img_lh
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Old 11-19-2018, 11:44 AM   #24
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Wait , I just realized, in the 21 the door does not hit the window as it does in the 19 model. So all I need is the stock door holder from Escape.
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Old 11-19-2018, 10:19 PM   #25
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Thanks for the update...
I am not sure I would like this as we keep the door open as much as possible and I consider this more awkward than open.
Looks like you have drip rails over the windows as well.
Enjoy your new trailer and trip...looking forward to your updates later.
At first I thought the door was odd - but it worked really well over the 5 weeks we traveled. It was sturdy - gave plenty of light - made it easy to leave open then close by just reaching the shorter distance (instead of getting out of the trailer to get to the door to close like we did before). SO I ended up really liking it. It never blew close in a high wind. We had it open a lot. (at the 90 degrees).
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Old 11-19-2018, 11:41 PM   #26
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At first I thought the door was odd - but it worked really well over the 5 weeks we traveled. It was sturdy - gave plenty of light - made it easy to leave open then close by just reaching the shorter distance (instead of getting out of the trailer to get to the door to close like we did before). SO I ended up really liking it. It never blew close in a high wind. We had it open a lot. (at the 90 degrees).
Great...I guess you can’t knock it until you try it...
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Old 11-20-2018, 06:49 AM   #27
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How does the new door lock into the open position - does it just do that when you open it fully? And how do you unlatch it to close it?
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Old 11-20-2018, 07:37 AM   #28
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It has a pneumatic closer that keeps it open and fixed and with a slight pull in allow it to close, mounted to the bottom.
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Old 11-20-2018, 07:46 AM   #29
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At first I thought the door was odd - but it worked really well over the 5 weeks we traveled. It was sturdy - gave plenty of light - made it easy to leave open then close by just reaching the shorter distance (instead of getting out of the trailer to get to the door to close like we did before). SO I ended up really liking it. It never blew close in a high wind. We had it open a lot. (at the 90 degrees).


Thanks. This is helpful. It answers our concerns. We may leave it in place and try it. I can always remove it if I want to.
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Old 11-21-2018, 09:17 PM   #30
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How does the new door lock into the open position - does it just do that when you open it fully? And how do you unlatch it to close it?

Hi, the one I have now (different trailer brand) does not lock and does move in and out in strong winds. I had a different trailer with the friction that moved out 90 which also moved around. I don't like the 90 ones as they blocked air movement into the trailer when breeze was parallel to the trailer plus the moving around is/was distracting. I've had the full open/latch type and liked that one best. (note, I don't own an Escape but would like one)
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Old 11-23-2018, 08:00 PM   #31
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We were surprised by the 90 degree door as well when we picked up 17B a couple weeks ago. Were sure we would want to modify to fully open, however on the trip home over a couple weeks, we've become accustomed to it and now not sure it's a big deal after all.
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Old 11-23-2018, 10:14 PM   #32
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Tastes vary I suppose. It might sound trivial but we really love our 'aircraft' style door and seiki screen on our classic Escape, and would not want the flat door and separate screen regardless of how far it opens.

I know the benefits of the new design, particularly the wider door that allows a better fridge. But try as I might I just can't like the new flat sides as much as the curved ones. As I said, tastes vary.
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Old 11-23-2018, 11:29 PM   #33
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I always liked the classic. Kind of nautical and true to the original fibreglass trailer styles.
Good thing they don’t offer both designs now! That would make the awning and window discussions almost insignificant.
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Old 11-24-2018, 12:14 AM   #34
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Tastes vary I suppose. It might sound trivial but we really love our 'aircraft' style door and seiki screen on our classic Escape, and would not want the flat door and separate screen regardless of how far it opens.

I know the benefits of the new design, particularly the wider door that allows a better fridge. But try as I might I just can't like the new flat sides as much as the curved ones. As I said, tastes vary.

I too prefer the silhouette of the 1G trailers, but would still choose the various upgrades afforded with the 2G if I could only have one or the other. Oh, but if only all the newest doodads were available in the earlier slenderness, wouldn’t that be sweet!
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Old 11-24-2018, 11:53 AM   #35
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The 2g Escape flat sides removed it from being classified by purists as an “egg trailer.” While it is still molded fiberglass, it most resembles the old flat sided Fiberstreams, which haven’t been a real sought out trailer by Hobbyists. I call the 2g trailers Fiberscapes, but those with classics still do have traditional “egg trailers.” All are good molded fiberglass trailers and are a step above the stickies, but it will be interesting over time to see how the different models end up being perceived in the hobby.
I am still hopeful that ETI will offer at some point a “classic” limited edition every year.
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Old 11-24-2018, 02:13 PM   #36
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Yep, we knew when we decided to sell our 1999 Scamp that we would lose the classic shape,but we wanted an Escape.
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Old 11-25-2018, 08:36 AM   #37
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After one season I really like the friction door. I do not think I would like the new one - it just seems awkward that the door does not open wide like "normal" doors. Perhaps, years later, I may find that the friction loosens up over time but if it does there would likely be a way to replace the hinges. I have liked most of the improvements that Escape has made over the years but this one does not make sense to me.
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Old 12-06-2018, 07:24 AM   #38
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We have ordered the 21' and will pick it up in June....I prefer the "open door" , Does one have an option ?
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When you pick up, ask for the standard door hold back. Then remove the door stop yourself and install the hold back. BTW, your avatar shows delivery June 2020?
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Old 12-06-2018, 07:39 AM   #40
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When you pick up, ask for the standard door hold back. Then remove the door stop yourself and install the hold back. BTW, your avatar shows delivery June 2020?
Jim, not sure that ETI will provide anything other than the new entry door. I recently wrote to them asking about the new door and was responded to by Tammy who said that if I wanted anything other than the standard (new) 90 degree door, I would have to install an after market version. Ho Hum.

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