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12-17-2019, 03:43 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Boulder, Colorado
Trailer: 2020 Escape 5.0TA "Zen"
Posts: 1,390
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Anyone pull a 5.0TA with a Toyota Tundra?
Gonna buy one tomorrow (I think).
Want to put the Anderson Hitch in it. The bed is 5 1/2 feet long. The guys at Trademasters are like, no problem. Everything will work fine.
Any thoughts on the truck or the hitch?
Specs - Toyota Tundra
Vehicle Trim: Limited Pickup 4D 5 1/2 ft
Drive Train: Four Wheel Drive
Engine: V8 5.7 Liter
Transmission: Automatic 6-Spd W/sequential Mode
Exterior: gray
Interior: gray leather
Thank you!!!
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12-17-2019, 03:47 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Friendswood, Texas
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19' (sold), Escape 5.0 as of August 2019 (sold)
Posts: 664
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Should be just fine. What’s the payload on the specific truck? While there is a brochure payload, they vary by specific truck due to options. It will be good to know this for awareness purposes.
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12-17-2019, 06:32 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Spokane, Washington
Trailer: 2017 5.0 TA
Posts: 116
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There are several 5.0 TA owners with Tundra tugs. I am one. My Tundra is a 2012 double cab 5.7. I had installed a B&W gooseneck ball with an Andersen hitch. It’s a great setup. No lack of power but gas mileage could be better. I think new Tundra has an option of a larger gas tank. I’d recommend that.
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12-17-2019, 07:14 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Boulder, Colorado
Trailer: 2020 Escape 5.0TA "Zen"
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Great! Bigger gas tank! Ha ha.
What have I gotten into?
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12-17-2019, 07:45 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: NKY, Kentucky
Trailer: , Bigfoot 25B25RT, previously 2019 Escape 21, and Castia sd17
Posts: 201
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Model Year 2016 was the last update to the Tundra, a larger 38 gal fuel tank and a built in brake controller were the changes to the truck from it 2014 last major update. The drivetrain dates back to 2007 and has quite a history in longevity. I'm on my 3rd Tundra since 2002, with my 2016 being the best yet. Mine sounds like the same truck you are looking at, gray 4wd crew max, limited. Pulls our 21ft Escape w/o a sweat. The only complaint I have about the truck is the firmness of the seats. After a few long days behind the wheel my butt starts to hurt. I wonder if the Platinum trim has softer seats? Not sure.
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12-17-2019, 08:01 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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My daughter took our RAV4 to Alberta a couple years ago and hasn't stopped complaining about the seats since.
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12-17-2019, 08:17 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Boulder, Colorado
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You know, these are long distance vehicles. They should be comfortable. Once I rode in the back seat of the Ford Explorer. OH MY GOD, IT WAS TERRIBLE!
So I am going after comfort. I hope this works. The back seats look great.
Kinda puts my mind at ease reading those comments. If I get it, I will file a butt report a.s.a.p..
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12-17-2019, 08:36 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: NKY, Kentucky
Trailer: , Bigfoot 25B25RT, previously 2019 Escape 21, and Castia sd17
Posts: 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UncleTim
You know, these are long distance vehicles. They should be comfortable. Once I rode in the back seat of the Ford Explorer. OH MY GOD, IT WAS TERRIBLE!
So I am going after comfort. I hope this works. The back seats look great.
Kinda puts my mind at ease reading those comments. If I get it, I will file a butt report a.s.a.p..
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After a few 1000 mile days if needed I will seat on a thin pillow, makes all the difference in the world. I love everything else about the truck. Here is picture of my setup. Attachment 1
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12-17-2019, 08:54 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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I like my Ram with the power lumbar, heated seats and heated steering wheel. Of course my Harley had heated hand grips also, it was really nice when it got cold.
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12-18-2019, 02:03 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: London, Ontario
Trailer: 2020 Escape 19
Posts: 1,120
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I had a 2017 4Runner, the seats were hard and I missed owning a truck so I bought a 2019 Tundra DC 4x4 4.6L SR5. The seats are soft but to flat, they have no form to them. If it's one thing it's another. Really I should have bought the TRD Sport, but I wanted it paid for in a year.
You will have no problem towing a 5.0TA with a Tundra, except the gas mileage. That's why I looked far and wide for the 4.6L. It should tow my E19 that's being built as we speak.
I just got build pics!!!!
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12-18-2019, 02:40 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Victoria, British Columbia
Trailer: 2016/ 5TA Spirit Bear
Posts: 322
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UncleTim
Gonna buy one tomorrow (I think).
Want to put the Anderson Hitch in it. The bed is 5 1/2 feet long. The guys at Trademasters are like, no problem. Everything will work fine.
Any thoughts on the truck or the hitch?
Specs - Toyota Tundra
Vehicle Trim: Limited Pickup 4D 5 1/2 ft
Drive Train: Four Wheel Drive
Engine: V8 5.7 Liter
Transmission: Automatic 6-Spd W/sequential Mode
Exterior: gray
Interior: gray leather
Thank you!!!
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I have the double cab tundra with a 6.5 foot bed. I enjoy the extra room back there. Demco hijacker double pivot hitch. 5.7 litre V8 so the power is exceptional. Mileage okay not great. Hitch makes it feel like you have nothing behind you. Both my wife and I use special contoured seat cushions and lumbar supports from relax the back. Helps with the long drives.
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12-18-2019, 04:53 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Boulder, Colorado
Trailer: 2020 Escape 5.0TA "Zen"
Posts: 1,390
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Hey Jim:
How many people does your Harley sleep?
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12-18-2019, 06:53 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UncleTim
Hey Jim:
How many people does your Harley sleep?
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one on the seat and 5 around the motor for warmth.......
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12-18-2019, 07:24 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Belchertown, Massachusetts
Trailer: 2018 Escape 19
Posts: 91
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payload
The published Tundra payload is 16xx pounds, but the actual payload from the door jam sticker is substantially lower. We considered a 2018 Tundra SR5 5.7liter with the 38-gallon gas tank and IIRC the door jam sticker payload was 12xx pounds. The gen2 5.0TA's are heavier, and options and trailer cargo could push the pin weight to what, maybe 900 pounds? If anyone with a gen2 5.0TA has measured it, that might help the original poster. Adding pin weight and occupant weight and vehicle cargo weight, it could be more than the Tundra's payload.
In 2018, we almost bought a 5.0TA when we replaced our 2014 19, but ended up getting another 19. I like the Tundra, but it doesn't have a higher payload option like the F150.
Bill R
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12-18-2019, 08:23 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Danbury, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2018 Escape 21C
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There are numerous articles on the internet comparing front and rear seat comfort and leg room ( long haul ) in various 1/2 & 3/4 ton pickup trucks .
The top place winner has varied between GMC , Chevy ,Ford & Ram and the bottom of the rankings has not ?
The power ,heated , ventilated , lumbar , seats in our 2019 are comfortable up to a point but are a little too soft for my liking especially after 4 or 5 hours of driving
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12-18-2019, 08:54 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Boulder, Colorado
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I think the 5.0TA puts about 900 lbs on the pin. The payload of the Tundra is 9,000 lbs
I do not expect the pin to be close to a problem and I love the idea this is over engineered.
Now I can tell everybody I planned this.
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12-18-2019, 09:05 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Belchertown, Massachusetts
Trailer: 2018 Escape 19
Posts: 91
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UncleTim
I think the 5.0TA puts about 900 lbs on the pin. The payload of the Tundra is 9,000 lbs
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toyota.com says the 2020 Tundra SR5 4x4 double-cab 5.7-liter 6.5-foot bed has a GVWR of 7100 pounds and a maximum payload of 1630 pounds. The door jam sticker will have a substantially smaller maximum payload, like 12xx or 13xx pounds.
The same Tundra's maximum towing capacity is 9900 pounds, but the limiting factor with a 5.0TA is payload, not towing capacity.
edited to specify a specific Tundra model
Bill R
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12-18-2019, 09:38 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,038
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UncleTim
I think the 5.0TA puts about 900 lbs on the pin. The payload of the Tundra is 9,000 lbs
I do not expect the pin to be close to a problem and I love the idea this is over engineered.
Now I can tell everybody I planned this.
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Hi: UncleTim... Is there a plan B? We towed for thousands of miles with a Nissan Frontier. Great truck, but a truck no less!!! Now we use a Ram EcoD. Comfortable for a 1000km. tug in one go and 25 miles to the gal. towing, but due to the plethera of equipment on it a bit lighter than the Fronty's payload. Just perfect for Gramma and I. Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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12-18-2019, 09:41 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Ridgway, Colorado
Trailer: 2018,5.0 TA
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I think you must be looking at something else, even a one ton truck doesn't have a 9,000 pound payload. I have an older tundra SR5 extra cab and it has a 1,500 lb payload and the Limited in the same truck is 1,366. The 9,000 lbs must be your towing capacity, on my Tundra it's 7,000 lbs.
1/2 ton trucks generally don't have much more payload than 1,500 because their primary use is as a passenger vehicle and most people would rather have a comfortable ride than a lot of payload.
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12-18-2019, 09:46 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Boulder, Colorado
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You're right.
Towing capacity: 6,400 to 10,100 lbs
Curb weight: 5,250 to 5,680 lbs
Payload: 1,440 to 1,660 lbs
Oops! My bad!
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