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04-11-2015, 03:59 PM
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#101
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,130
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I changed mine from 2,000 lb to 1,000 lb.
It is easier to read and more accurate at the centre of the gauge ( I'm getting about 320 lb. ).
I would buy it with the 1,000 lb gauge. Changing over, I managed to shoot oil all over the kitchen and myself.
And, you wouldn't have the expense of another gauge.
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04-11-2015, 04:23 PM
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#102
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,441
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
If you don't have air suspension in the back of the tug, then how much the trailer squashes the rear of the tug down is a decent rough indicator of trailer tongue weight. Do you weigh about what the trailer tongue should weigh, and if so does the trailer push the hitch down at least as much as you standing on the hitch does?
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The manual for my Pilot actually has a guide for measuring how much drop the tongue weight produces, and gives an approximate weight for that distance.
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04-11-2015, 04:25 PM
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#103
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
I would buy it with the 1,000 lb gauge. Changing over, I managed to shoot oil all over the kitchen and myself.
And, you wouldn't have the expense of another gauge.
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Since the scale is available with the right gauge, I agree that it only makes sense to buy it that way, if buying new. If you find a great deal on a used one, but only of a different range, then the gauge change may make sense.
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04-11-2015, 08:43 PM
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#104
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vancouver, BC, British Columbia
Trailer: 19'
Posts: 326
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the 1up has no hitch pin, just some expander bolt?
I'd need a 1up for 3 bikes, 64 lbs worth of rack and spendy.
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04-11-2015, 09:08 PM
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#105
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,098
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Ok I'm a little tired & grumpy from ALL THE WORK IT TAKES TO GO CAMPING!!! It just seems to me this thread has become kind of useless for the discussion of bike rack. The 1Up is good for two bikes max as per previous.
Still waiting for some real world experience with it; no bikes this trip. Forest River Forum posts are saying forget it with bikes on the back.
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04-11-2015, 11:12 PM
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#106
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Jeromesville, Ohio
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21' pulled with 2014 Silverado Crewcab
Posts: 850
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I got the Sherline out and weighed the tongue of my 21' with the 1Up plugged in with no bikes. Looked like about 480 lbs best I could tell. My gage is the 2000 lb and is a bit tough to read. Caharley is right, get the 1000 lb model. I ordered a new gage from EBay with 1000 lb range and will replace it. The first chance I get I will check the whole deal with bikes, gear, and beer and see where it is at. Also I will hit the scale and check the trailer weight.
If the loaded trailer is at about 4300 then the balance will definitely bear watching. I think the balance will be a challenge to keep above 12%.
By the way, the 1Up is an impressive piece of hardware. It's the the kind of thing that puts a smile on an engineer's face. Will be trying it out this week on the back of the Silverado.
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04-12-2015, 01:31 AM
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#107
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vancouver, BC, British Columbia
Trailer: 19'
Posts: 326
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rossue
Ok It just seems to me this thread has become kind of useless for the discussion of bike rack. The 1Up is good for two bikes max as per previous.
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Manufacturer says up to 4 bikes, quoting website:
Double Bicycle Quik Rack (Silver)
- Heavy Duty 2" Hitch Carrier
- Designed to Carry 2 Bicycles
- Compatible with Quik Rack Add On
- Rated For Up to 4 Bicycles w/ Add Ons
- Rates for 50 lbs per bike spot
- Free Shipping on orders of $525
$529
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2" Double Bicycle Super Duty Quik Rack (Silver)
- Weight of rack, 47 lbs
- Free Shipping on orders of $525
$559
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Product Info
This rack has all the same functionality and features as our standard racks. It has a solid 2" hitch bar and an added support bar that allows the rack to carry bikes up to 75 lbs with no issues. This rack is a fixed 2 bike rack and is rated for up to 3 bikes ( 50 lbs- 75 lbs per bike) or 4 bikes (50 lbs or less per bike). Always load the heaviest bike closest to the vehicle.
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04-12-2015, 06:37 AM
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#108
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Coming back from Osoyoos, I stopped and showed BlackJack to someone who worked at the truck weigh station on I90 in Montana. BlackJack, fully loaded with food, 1/2 tank fresh water, and "stuff" for 2 weeks, came in at 3800 on axle and 500 on tongue.
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04-12-2015, 06:52 AM
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#109
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,441
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skiman
By the way, the 1Up is an impressive piece of hardware. It's the the kind of thing that puts a smile on an engineer's face.
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This is what I have been saying to folks for the last year since buying ours. The simplicity and quality of the build is what is most impressive. It makes me go all ga-ga.
It is so great to take only a couple minutes tops, to mount the rack, and two bikes, and know they are on a very solid built device.
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2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
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04-12-2015, 10:58 AM
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#110
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: O town, British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 "Lightning"
Posts: 1,467
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Jamie in case you missed it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BCnomad
from 1up site:
Quote:
1up USA advises a two bike max for RV and travel trailer usage for our two inch models. The 1 ¼ inch models are not intended for RV and travel trailer use.
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04-12-2015, 11:00 AM
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#111
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: O town, British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 "Lightning"
Posts: 1,467
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Sigh, two topics on the 'recent' box. Does a mod have time to merge the chaos?
Jamie, its only rated at two bikes for RV use, per 1up site. Non-RV, yes 4 bikes total and they show such on a Jeep.
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04-12-2015, 11:20 AM
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#112
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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I merged the 2 threads as requested.
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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04-12-2015, 01:18 PM
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#113
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vancouver, BC, British Columbia
Trailer: 19'
Posts: 326
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Drats...missed it that only 2 bikes with a trailer!....thanks for the heads up. bummer.
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04-12-2015, 02:49 PM
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#114
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Olathe, Kansas
Trailer: 2015 21ft Escape "Spirit of the Plains", 2014 GMC Sierra with max tow package
Posts: 1,100
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Just added bike rack ready to the build sheet. For only $75.00 and I figure it would be hard to add later with the spray foam underneath. I will worry about a rack later although reading all of this is educational. Loren
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04-19-2015, 07:54 PM
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#115
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vancouver, BC, British Columbia
Trailer: 19'
Posts: 326
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Let me apologize in advance in case this info is above and I missed it too!
I assume that the 1up rack plus bikes can be installed A-ok with the spare tire in place?
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04-19-2015, 08:15 PM
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#116
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Jeromesville, Ohio
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21' pulled with 2014 Silverado Crewcab
Posts: 850
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jamie beers
Let me apologize in advance in case this info is above and I missed it too!
I assume that the 1up rack plus bikes can be installed A-ok with the spare tire in place?
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The rack can be installed with the tire on. The only thing is, it won't go to the full up storage position. It can be placed in the next position down which is about 45 deg. No biggie since you would only be bringing it along to have bikes on it and you would have it all the way down. It is still pretty close to to the trailer in that next storage position.
We used the rack to bring a new Electra Townie home on the back of the truck. The bike really rode nice. We hope to get the rig out this weekend and I will get pictures to post.
 
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"Isn't it amazing how much stuff we get done the day before vacation?"
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04-19-2015, 08:35 PM
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#117
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,098
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Hi Carl- really missing our bikes this trip as am waiting for 1Up real world TT review. As Jim Bennett has said it's useful to have someone drive behind to see how the bikes are looking. Hope you have the opportunity to do so.
As previously posted we met Steve & Danielle w/their new 21. They use a Yakima Holdup but on long treks put the nice Santa Cruz bikes in the truck.
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04-20-2015, 02:00 PM
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#118
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: O town, British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 "Lightning"
Posts: 1,467
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Got the 1up sd single today and put 'er on. A real treat to set up, after memories of straps, ratchets, bolts and awkward lifting of yesterday. Might have to find excuse (like lunch) to go test it out.
If anything, Jim is under playing the build quality, at least compared to the two older bike racks that are in my closet now.
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04-20-2015, 04:31 PM
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#119
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: O town, British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 "Lightning"
Posts: 1,467
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pic
since y'all like pictures.
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04-20-2015, 05:37 PM
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#120
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vancouver, BC, British Columbia
Trailer: 19'
Posts: 326
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BCnomad
Got the 1up sd single today and put 'er on. A real treat to set up, after memories of straps, ratchets, bolts and awkward lifting of yesterday. Might have to find excuse (like lunch) to go test it out.
If anything, Jim is under playing the build quality, at least compared to the two older bike racks that are in my closet now.
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Delivery time? Dinged with customs fees?
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