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04-25-2016, 08:49 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Burlington, Vermont
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Clean RVing
HI Everyone,
I am sure that everyone on this site shares a passion for the great outdoors and has wanderlust to visit interesting and wonderful places all over North America in our RV’s. Unfortunately, our choice to burn carbon fuels to travel helps to degrade the very places we cherish via carbon emissions and the resultant global warming. The evidence is undeniable but if you want an example immediately relevant to this crew, ask anyone who is following the rapid demise of the Glacier National Park glaciers. No More Glaciers in Glacier National Park by 2020?.
Now assuming we are not going to simply give up the RV lifestyle, what can we do? We have elected to purchase carbon offsets to compensate for our burning of carbon fuel. Briefly, carbon offsets are projects around the world such as reforestation in the rainforest to grow trees that will capture carbon dioxide we have generated. Our personal goal is to have our RV activities be “carbon neutral”, that is, we fund enough projects to capture the amount of CO2 we generate with our RV activities, about 4 tons per year in our case. Our cost for this is just $60. I would invite others on this site to do the same. Here are two websites that will help you take this action if you choose.
Carbon Footprint Ltd - Carbon Offsets, Offsetting, Neutrality and PAS 2060
Carbon Offset Program-Frequently Asked Questions | The Nature Conservancy
Thanks for reading.
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04-25-2016, 09:00 AM
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We are not going to turn this thread in to a political stage. Okay?
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Ten Forward
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04-25-2016, 09:13 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
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Clean RVing
It already is.....
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"You can't buy happiness, but you can buy an RV. And that is pretty close."
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04-25-2016, 09:28 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Bellingham and Glacier, Washington
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I agree with rbryan4. And whether one agrees or not, isn't it like letting the camel's nose under the tent with regard to solicitation for one's favorite charity?
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2013 Escape 15A, "Egbert"
'93 Ford 150 XLT or
'22 GMC Acadia Denali
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04-25-2016, 10:06 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Lewisburg, Tennessee
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Agreed, too late
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Originally Posted by rbryan4
It already is.....
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04-25-2016, 10:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KarenH
I agree with rbryan4. And whether one agrees or not, isn't it like letting the camel's nose under the tent with regard to solicitation for one's favorite charity?
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No camels to be found in USA or Canada. Horses in front of the Escape! Wouldn't that be a sight? (You only have to bring a pooper scooper
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04-25-2016, 10:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marry
No camels to be found in USA or Canada.
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That is one of my 99-year-old dad's expressions and I've always loved the imagery of it.
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2013 Escape 15A, "Egbert"
'93 Ford 150 XLT or
'22 GMC Acadia Denali
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04-25-2016, 10:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KarenH
That is one of my 99-year-old dad's expressions and I've always loved the imagery of it. 
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The camel's nose I will remember! Very good expression! Thank you!
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04-25-2016, 10:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marry
No camels to be found in USA or Canada. Horses in front of the Escape! Wouldn't that be a sight? (You only have to bring a pooper scooper 
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Well they were in Quartzsite, AZ in the 1850's. An experiment that didn't work, but the Hi Jolly Monument is an interesting visit when looking for things to do during a long winter in the desert.
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04-25-2016, 10:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KarenH
I agree with rbryan4. And whether one agrees or not, isn't it like letting the camel's nose under the tent with regard to solicitation for one's favorite charity?
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Hi Karen,
You're right. I should have added something about there are many other ways to offset carbon emissions besides the two orgainizations I listed. Also don't want it to be seen as a political issue--way bigger than that.
No camels allowed in my tent BTW
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04-25-2016, 10:58 AM
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Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan4
It already is.....
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My first thought too. I just don't see this going well.
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2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
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04-25-2016, 11:02 AM
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Location: Lewisburg, Tennessee
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It's not just the charity per se. It's the subject matter itself. And that will be my last post on this thread.
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Originally Posted by yardsale
Hi Karen,
You're right. I should have added something about there are many other ways to offset carbon emissions besides the two orgainizations I listed. Also don't want it to be seen as a political issue--way bigger than that.
No camels allowed in my tent BTW
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04-25-2016, 11:23 AM
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I think there are enough environmental forums out there if anyone wants to continue this discussion.
Cheers
Doug
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Cheers
Doug
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04-25-2016, 11:26 AM
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Site Team
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Remember a couple of things:
Let it Go
Walk On By
No member needs to read every single post or feel compelled to reply to every single post. Sometimes the best action is to step away from the keyboard...
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Donna D.
Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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04-25-2016, 11:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
Remember a couple of things:
Let it Go
Walk On By
No member needs to read every single post or feel compelled to reply to every single post. Sometimes the best action is to step away from the keyboard...
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Great advice!
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Doug & Lucy Metz
2016 Escape 5.0 TA
Pick up date in July
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04-25-2016, 11:50 AM
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I think the topic is relevant to RVing ( might want to discuss towing with an electric vehicle too ). I don't see it as political unless you deny climate change.
In the future, you may not be able to buy a tow vehicle that will tow a trailer. If that isn't relevant, I don't know what is.
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04-25-2016, 11:59 AM
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Don't get me going on carbon taxes and carbon offsets.  If I said what I think of them I'd be banned for life.
Ron
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04-25-2016, 12:01 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denison, Texas
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I have wondered, if people travel by car and trailer instead of plane, what the difference is on energy consumption. If there were a plane-load of people in the average-sized plane used in NA, how much energy does the plane use instead of those people going by TV and trailer, or just going by car.
I suppose the plane is less, but the trip is shorter and completely different. Nothing is seen with the plane.
A big percentage of RV owners simply go from Point A to Point B and stay there, and back again. They do not travel as many of us do.
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"Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air.... "
Emerson
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04-25-2016, 12:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
I think the topic is relevant to RVing ( might want to discuss towing with an electric vehicle too ). I don't see it as political unless you deny climate change.
In the future, you may not be able to buy a tow vehicle that will tow a trailer. If that isn't relevant, I don't know what is.
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Yes, an electric TV occurred to me but those are too small for our Escapes.
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"Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air.... "
Emerson
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04-25-2016, 12:07 PM
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I'd have more to offer if the title was Cleaning RV instead of Clean RVing
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