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Old 02-12-2019, 06:44 PM   #21
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I meant compensate with the lack of thermal efficiency, not monetary wise, sorry about the confusion.
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Old 02-12-2019, 08:53 PM   #22
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I meant compensate with the lack of thermal efficiency, not monetary wise, sorry about the confusion.
I’ll have to bring the space heater in when I’m sitting on the crapper, and take it out when using the plumbing, so’s I don’t get a shock. Seriously though, how bad can it be? We have Reflectix for a back up during extreme temperatures, and the door is closed most of the time.
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I’ll have to bring the space heater in when I’m sitting on the crapper, and take it out when using the plumbing, so’s I don’t get a shock. Seriously though, how bad can it be? We have Reflectix for a back up during extreme temperatures, and the door is closed most of the time.


Condensation will be noticeably worse.
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I have no window in my 17B bath and no complaints. There is a vent in the ceiling.
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Old 02-12-2019, 09:09 PM   #25
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I have no window in my 17B bath and no complaints. There is a vent in the ceiling.
That may be a viable option. No window.
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Mine is old non-powered vent. Works OK and lets in light when opened.
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Old 02-12-2019, 09:32 PM   #27
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Mine is old non-powered vent. Works OK and lets in light when opened.
I think I speak for us all when I say, thank you for venting.
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Window or not

I have a 21’ on order and had the additional windows in the bath, and on top of the drawers. I opted to not get the front widow since it was non thermal. I am now thinking of deleting these windows since they are non thermal any thoughts are the thermal windows that much better.
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I would think the thermal advantage would depend how close the window is to you - where you sit or sleep.
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I would think the thermal advantage would depend how close the window is to you - where you sit or sleep.


Condensation doesn’t care how close you are. Drip. Drip. Drip.
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Condensation doesn’t care how close you are. Drip. Drip. Drip.

I donno. Seems to me that exuding hot moist air is what creates condensation.
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We're in the same boat...we love windows, the added light inside, ventilation and the views so decided to keep both windows. I called the Lippert Company today and they said if they decide to go back to manufacturing an improved 14x16 thermal window, it would be simple to switch them out later. However, for now there's always reflectix to insulate with on cold days/nights but I came across the following that looks interesting: Hummmmm May not work, but if anyone has tried this 'clear' solution at all, do tell! Thanks!

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Old 02-13-2019, 05:40 AM   #33
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I have a 21’ on order and had the additional windows in the bath, and on top of the drawers. I opted to not get the front widow since it was non thermal. I am now thinking of deleting these windows since they are non thermal any thoughts are the thermal windows that much better.
The additional light in the bath is needed and ventilation in warmer times much needed, same for the optional window in the 21 on the drivers side. I have decided the advantages of both far out weigh and disadvantage of single panes.
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Old 02-13-2019, 06:11 AM   #34
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I have a 21’ on order and had the additional windows in the bath, and on top of the drawers. I opted to not get the front widow since it was non thermal. I am now thinking of deleting these windows since they are non thermal any thoughts are the thermal windows that much better.
When do you plan to do most of your camping? No condensation when it's warm and dry.

I love windows! No matter what kind of window in the door, you probably will want to make some sort of curtain. So, make it with reflextic AND fabric. Done. Same with a window over the drawer stack. The one in the bathroom. Who cares if it drips, nothing is going to get hurt. The one over the bed? Close the exterior cover, even better insulate the cover. You can leave it closed all the time if you so choose. But you would have the option to open it when you want. No window, no choice.

People have camped for years with single pane windows. And yes, I hated them in my Scamp during the shoulder seasons. So while they were a PITA, I survived. I know I wouldn't want fewer windows because of a bit of an inconvenience. YMMV
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Old 02-13-2019, 05:52 PM   #35
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I just want to check with others who are impacted for this change on your build sheet for both your bathroom window and the 2 drawer stack window. The email from ETI has this sentence on the price adjustment:

You will note the price for the Frame-less Thermal Window has been reduced by $25.00cdn as it will now be a Non-Thermal Frame-less Window.

Do you see this reduction for both your windows? Specifically I am asking if you see this $25 reduction for your 2 drawer stack window. I am working on an issue for my order related to this so would like to see if your adjustment looks right. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Old 02-13-2019, 06:05 PM   #36
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Actually the driver side window was $50 reduction and the bath was $25 reduction, $75 total for both.
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Hi Jim, thanks for your reply. ETI missed the reduction adjustment for my 2 drawer stack window so I am trying to get it resolved.
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Hi Jim, thanks for your reply. ETI missed the reduction adjustment for my 2 drawer stack window so I am trying to get it resolved.
I'm guessing your salesperson is Linda? She missed that on someone else's build earlier today. Tammy adjusted mine so it was not missed. It should read "Frameless non-thermal" for bath and drawer stack optional window.
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I'm guessing your salesperson is Linda? She missed that on someone else's build earlier today. Tammy adjusted mine so it was not missed. It should read "Frameless non-thermal" for bath and drawer stack optional window.
My email actually came from Tammy and when I saw the price for the 2 drawer stack window had no change I called her and she said she missed it. But the twist was I first told her to delete the 2 drawer stack window since it's no longer thermal and she did. But after more thinking and reading this thread I changed my mind and told her to add it back on but the revised build sheet has the original price. That's why I was trying to find what's the situation for others so I know what I should expect.
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My email actually came from Tammy and when I saw the price for the 2 drawer stack window had no change I called her and she said she missed it. But the twist was I first told her to delete the 2 drawer stack window since it's no longer thermal and she did. But after more thinking and reading this thread I changed my mind and told her to add it back on but the revised build sheet has the original price. That's why I was trying to find what's the situation for others so I know what I should expect.
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