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04-30-2015, 01:47 PM
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#81
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,743
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Originally Posted by markvt
Myron here's just a thought I saw the other day a window 5000 BTU air A/C unit on sale for $99.00 dollars.
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I bought one of those last summer. I can use it in the house to cool the den but I was thinking that it would be easy to make a non-permanent platform for it and mount it in the emergency escape window.
Heading to Alaska this summer so I probably won't try it but I will before I head far South again. No big investment since I already have it.
Ron
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04-30-2015, 02:17 PM
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#82
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Oak Creek, Wisconsin
Trailer: Escape 19 26/May/2014 Sold New trailer 2016 Bigfoot 25B21FB
Posts: 449
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Originally Posted by Ron in BC
I bought one of those last summer. I can use it in the house to cool the den but I was thinking that it would be easy to make a non-permanent platform for it and mount it in the emergency escape window.
Heading to Alaska this summer so I probably won't try it but I will before I head far South again. No big investment since I already have it.
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Exactly Ron these new air-conditioners are so lightweight small and cheap how can you go wrong. And I would bet you money these small unit mounted in emergency relief window would be way quieter than the roof top A/C units
Mark
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04-30-2015, 07:12 PM
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#83
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: ..., New Mexico
Trailer: 2013 Esc19/'14 Silvrado
Posts: 4,193
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Wow, Mark, I will say this...your idea is so amazing, I may try it. That bathroom was beginning to look too sleek, uncluttered and roomy. I could drill holes in the fiberglass for support brackets, run dedicated power lines through other holes to hide them, tape drain hoses going down to the floor, in the corner. No, wait, I could avoid drilling some holes by making a little hammock for the AC and suspend it from the ceiling vent. And, it would all be easily reversible should I or a future owner not like the look, or if he bumps his head...
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"A billion here, a billion there...add it all up and before you know it you're talking real money." Everett Dirkson
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04-30-2015, 09:13 PM
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#84
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Oak Creek, Wisconsin
Trailer: Escape 19 26/May/2014 Sold New trailer 2016 Bigfoot 25B21FB
Posts: 449
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But Myron just think you would have the only air-conditioning Escape Trailer bathroom out there. Now that would be cool !
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04-30-2015, 09:34 PM
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#85
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,023
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Do I need A/C? No, not now... I need an umbrella! I live in the Pacific NorthWET (okay so not so wet this year). But, I do pay attention to warranty stuff. All RV A/C have a really short warranty period.
I'm more than two years from retirement (woohooo). Right now, I don't need air conditioning in Ten Forward. But, I don't have a crystal ball and don't know what my future will hold.
All I know is that short warranty period, don't need it now... SO, during my build I added the option for the A/C. All the wiring needed for A/C is in place, under the vinyl.
IF and WHEN I decide A/C is what I need... I'm set. Whether ETI adds it or some third-party vendor.
It's not only about your needs now.. but your future. Best of luck in your decision. I've made mine.
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Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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04-30-2015, 09:37 PM
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#86
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 - "Felicity"
Posts: 2,945
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04-30-2015, 09:58 PM
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#87
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,210
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
Do I need A/C? No, not now... I need an umbrella! I live in the Pacific NorthWET (okay so not so wet this year). But, I do pay attention to warranty stuff. All RV A/C have a really short warranty period.
I'm more than two years from retirement (woohooo). Right now, I don't need air conditioning in Ten Forward. But, I don't have a crystal ball and don't know what my future will hold.
All I know is that short warranty period, don't need it now... SO, during my build I added the option for the A/C. All the wiring needed for A/C is in place, under the vinyl.
IF and WHEN I decide A/C is what I need... I'm set. Whether ETI adds it or some third-party vendor.
It's not only about your needs now.. but your future. Best of luck in your decision. I've made mine.
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Couldn't agree more and made the same decision. Only downside is not being able to get the magic digital thermostat- the one that is paired to the Dometic unit. I tried & tried to just get the thermostat only installed for $150 to no avail; still wondering why.
However, resale value is not a reason to spend $1000 up front for an AC you may likely not need depending on your particulars. It did take myself and Gerri a bit longer to sell our Escapes without AC, however just like in Real Estate- it only takes one buyer. From what I see one can get the Dometic ETI sells installed for the same price ETI charges. You just can't get the magic thermostat done as easily as during build.
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04-30-2015, 10:13 PM
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#88
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,023
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Ten Forward is my second all-molded-towable. Resale value to me means an estate problem for my daughter.
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Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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04-30-2015, 10:37 PM
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#89
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Trailer: 2014 5TA/ *012 17B (previous)
Posts: 442
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Just spent 4 months in Florida, for the last 2 months March and April, it would be hard to stay in the trailer without it not just for us but, especially if you travel with pets.
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04-30-2015, 10:48 PM
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#90
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,210
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Your particulars are noted.....having lived in FLA as a kid I know I don't want to be there much past the first week in April- especially more than a block or two from the Atlantic. Around the end of October is cool. It's not the heat as much as the humidity.
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05-01-2015, 10:46 AM
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#91
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Trailer: 2015 5.0 TA, 2014- RAM HEMI 8 spd
Posts: 447
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A lot of my travel this summer will be in the southwest, could not do it without a A/C.
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05-01-2015, 10:59 AM
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#92
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Delta, British Columbia
Trailer: 2015 5.0TA
Posts: 271
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rossue
It did take myself and Gerri a bit longer to sell our Escapes without AC, however just like in Real Estate- it only takes one buyer. From what I see one can get the Dometic ETI sells installed for the same price ETI charges. You just can't get the magic thermostat done as easily as during build.
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We eventually had to get the A/C installed to sell the 5.0. Supposedly the new owner paid half the price but after all the dickering I suspect that we paid the whole amount.
Mark
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05-01-2015, 11:47 AM
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#93
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,210
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Hi Mark- just curious; did you get AC this time? Still not missing ours but I don't like hot weather anyway which is why I live where the mean temp is 65 degrees!
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05-01-2015, 12:05 PM
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#94
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Delta, British Columbia
Trailer: 2015 5.0TA
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No we didn't. Like Donna we will add it if and when we feel we need it. You can pay now or later, doesn't seem to make much difference.
We have friends who have one of those small portable units that they drag out when the need arises. They it works fine for this climate.
Mark
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05-01-2015, 05:28 PM
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#95
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
Do I need A/C? No, not now... I need an umbrella! I live in the Pacific NorthWET (okay so not so wet this year). But, I do pay attention to warranty stuff. All RV A/C have a really short warranty period.
I'm more than two years from retirement (woohooo). Right now, I don't need air conditioning in Ten Forward. But, I don't have a crystal ball and don't know what my future will hold.
All I know is that short warranty period, don't need it now... SO, during my build I added the option for the A/C. All the wiring needed for A/C is in place, under the vinyl.
IF and WHEN I decide A/C is what I need... I'm set. Whether ETI adds it or some third-party vendor.
It's not only about your needs now.. but your future. Best of luck in your decision. I've made mine.
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Not so much worried about the warranty as the climate, but your point is well made Donna. People should do what works for them, and where they camp.
I can tell you this: if you camped here in South Texas there would be a call To ETI for an AC unit in short order.
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05-01-2015, 06:16 PM
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#96
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denison, Texas
Trailer: 2015 21'; 2011 19' sold; 4Runner; ph ninezero3 327-27ninefour
Posts: 5,136
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Originally Posted by GerriJ
We eventually had to get the A/C installed to sell the 5.0. Supposedly the new owner paid half the price but after all the dickering I suspect that we paid the whole amount.
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I never thought of someone installing A/C to sell. That is one basic difference between living in Canada and the U.S.: You don't need A/C up there. Since most units are sold in that area, most probably don't have A/C. But there are more prospective buyers south than north who want A/C when the units go up for resale.
We would not have bought without A/C and insulation and thermal windows even where we are since it gets hot, and we also go to the Southwest. I am sure, too, that our buyers would not have bought without those.
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05-01-2015, 06:50 PM
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#97
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Jamestown, Colorado
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19
Posts: 232
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I live in the mountains and don't have A/C in my home. The 3 or 4 days a year that it actually hits 90, it cools off quickly when the sun goes down.
I hate the heat, I'm way more worried about snow loading than A/C.
I'm with Donna D, resale will be my daughter's problem.
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05-01-2015, 06:54 PM
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#98
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: ..., New Mexico
Trailer: 2013 Esc19/'14 Silvrado
Posts: 4,193
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My humble conclusion: Clearly there is a broad consensus favoring a/c in the trailer.
By my count the plusses start with a/c being absolutely critical for comfort in the hot-hot weather, (no surprise there, considering the number of senior citizens here - you paid your dues, you're untitled to total comfort in your golden years), and, the plusses end with a/c being a key to resale value (no surprise there, considering the obvious wisdom of all (most).
In practical terms nobody seems concerned or bothered much by the noise a/c produces and I chalk that up to "...it really ain't that bad considering the alternative." (See 2nd sentence, paragraph 1.) Also, it probably ain't that bad. Clearly, a night of white noise trumps a night of sweltering. Thinking most don't run air all night anyway, but use it before bedtime to cool off the interior and bring it down to a tolerable sleeping temperature. (That might not work in the Texas hill country.)
Either most of you choose campsites with electricity, or carry a generator, (sorry, solar guys) so the power issue is irrelevant.
For you who camp mostly in northern temperate zones Kar-nack senses a grudgingly reluctant sub-conscious admission that it probably is better to have and not need than to need and not have. That's OK, no justifications necessary. I think that way myself, but-- I do draw the line at hanging a $99dollar unit out my bathroom window. (Don't have one anyway.)
All these observations make perfect sense to me, and, so... I... am... gonna be getting an air conditioner.
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"A billion here, a billion there...add it all up and before you know it you're talking real money." Everett Dirkson
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05-01-2015, 09:19 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
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Originally Posted by MyronL
My humble conclusion: Clearly there is a broad consensus favoring a/c in the trailer.
By my count the plusses start with a/c being absolutely critical for comfort in the hot-hot weather, (no surprise there, considering the number of senior citizens here - you paid your dues, you're untitled to total comfort in your golden years), and, the plusses end with a/c being a key to resale value (no surprise there, considering the obvious wisdom of all (most).
In practical terms nobody seems concerned or bothered much by the noise a/c produces and I chalk that up to "...it really ain't that bad considering the alternative." (See 2nd sentence, paragraph 1.) Also, it probably ain't that bad. Clearly, a night of white noise trumps a night of sweltering. Thinking most don't run air all night anyway, but use it before bedtime to cool off the interior and bring it down to a tolerable sleeping temperature. (That might not work in the Texas hill country.)
Either most of you choose campsites with electricity, or carry a generator, (sorry, solar guys) so the power issue is irrelevant.
For you who camp mostly in northern temperate zones Kar-nack senses a grudgingly reluctant sub-conscious admission that it probably is better to have and nMexico, d than to need and not have. That's OK, no justifications necessary. I think that way myself, but-- I do draw the line at hanging a $99dollar unit out my bathroom window. (Don't have one anyway.)
All these observations make perfect sense to me, and, so... I... am... gonna be getting an air conditioner.
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Well, it DOES get pretty darn hot in New Mexico, Myron.
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05-01-2015, 11:52 PM
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#100
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Originally Posted by MyronL
For you who camp mostly in northern temperate zones Kar-nack senses a grudgingly reluctant sub-conscious admission that it probably is better to have and not need than to need and not have.
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Maybe not. There are a lot of things one can carry "just in case it's needed", but most of them don't cost as much or weigh as much as an air conditioner. If it really were never going to be used, I wouldn't want it along... but if I am going to carry one, I would rather have it built-in than have to deal with something I have to set up.
My current trailer doesn't have air conditioning and we haven't needed it; the motorhome does and it has been used and appreciated sometimes. Clearly, there's no one right answer, even for one specific owner.
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