Escape 21 bed width...any regrets

[ChristineMcD]

Hi all
Still going back and forth between the 19 and 21 model...no question about escape
I like the layout of 21 ft and the fact that I do not have to crawl over hubby in middle of night but hubby is concerned about width and being too tight
Anyone have regrets about bed with
We are two average to large people with dog who sleeps in the middle

[gbaglo]

If the dog sleeps in the middle, it doesn't matter how big the bed is.

[ChristineMcD]

Originally Posted by gbaglo

If the dog sleeps in the middle, it doesn't matter how big the bed is.

lol, he is small at sleeps at our feet

[tractors1]

You won't be sure until you crawl in the bed and actually try one. I'm 6-2 and we're both fine with the fit; the 80 inch length might be enough for your dog - but you'd have to kick it out of bed to get to the bath if needed.

[ChristineMcD]

Originally Posted by tractors1

You won't be sure until you crawl in the bed and actually try one. I'm 6-2 and we're both fine with the fit; the 80 inch length might be enough for your dog - but you'd have to kick it out of bed to get to the bath if needed.

Thanks Charlie, cannot wait to take our trailer to Oregon

[buellfire]

We have a 2019 21 and the bed is better than the Casita that we previously had. You scoot out of the bed in a 21 instead of the crawl over. We are normal sized adults and find that we have enough room, however a real queen would be better, with all things in life there is a give and take. You have landed on a well built and very functional RV, just pick one. You will know quick if you selected the right one for you. The good thing about the fiberglass RV market, if you feel like you need a change after a few years it won't be as painful as it could have been financially. I would love to see the rumored 23ft frame with a 21 body. I would take the extra room on the tongue and make a toy hauler. Need to haul a motorcycle there is room and the front storage box, want to haul two small motorcycles or an ATV, the storage box and motorcycle rail is replaced with a platform. I hope something like this comes out, if it does I will take another trip to Chilliwack!

[travdes]

Originally Posted by gbaglo

If the dog sleeps in the middle, it doesn't matter how big the bed is.

100%. It's plenty big enough until our two 75lb dogs somehow fill the gaps. It's still sleepable, just annoying

[Ops]

Originally Posted by ChristineMcD

Hi all
Still going back and forth between the 19 and 21 model...no question about escape
I like the layout of 21 ft and the fact that I do not have to crawl over hubby in middle of night but hubby is concerned about width and being too tight

I don't know if you're aware of the newest Escape 21 NE.

The floor plan bed layout is just like the Escape 19, but the rig is 2 feet longer than the 19. My wife and I went for the 21NE and will be getting it early May.

We opted for that simply because of it being a queen bed and we have an 80lb shep'-'sky mix that sleeps at the foot of our queen at home. As for climbing over...better that than a double bed like in the 21 ft 'Classic' model when you have that much fur and mass sharing the bed with you (I'm referring to the dog).

[cpaharley2008]

I'm glad you clarified that last statement..........

[Ops]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

I'm glad you clarified that last statement..........

Figure I'd best clarify just in case my wife starts scanning the forum.

[ChristineMcD]

Originally Posted by buellfire

We have a 2019 21 and the bed is better than the Casita that we previously had. You scoot out of the bed in a 21 instead of the crawl over. We are normal sized adults and find that we have enough room, however a real queen would be better, with all things in life there is a give and take. You have landed on a well built and very functional RV, just pick one. You will know quick if you selected the right one for you. The good thing about the fiberglass RV market, if you feel like you need a change after a few years it won't be as painful as it could have been financially. I would love to see the rumored 23ft frame with a 21 body. I would take the extra room on the tongue and make a toy hauler. Need to haul a motorcycle there is room and the front storage box, want to haul two small motorcycles or an ATV, the storage box and motorcycle rail is replaced with a platform. I hope something like this comes out, if it does I will take another trip to Chilliwack!

would love the toy hauler also...ty for your reply

[ChristineMcD]

Originally Posted by Ops

I don't know if you're aware of the newest Escape 21 NE.

The floor plan bed layout is just like the Escape 19, but the rig is 2 feet longer than the 19. My wife and I went for the 21NE and will be getting it early May.

We opted for that simply because of it being a queen bed and we have an 80lb shep'-'sky mix that sleeps at the foot of our queen at home. As for climbing over...better that than a double bed like in the 21 ft 'Classic' model when you have that much fur and mass sharing the bed with you (I'm referring to the dog).

Hi Ops
Yes I just saw the new 21with the layout of 19, not really concerned with extra 2 ft it was more the layout, Probable will use outdoor shower more than indoor one so would not mind to loose room in there. We spend most of our ime outdoors weather permitting
I think I will get a better feel when I go in May to BC
Thanks for your imput

[steve dunham]

No regrets with rhe bed in our Escape 21 . It has never prevented me from getting a good nights sleep .

[ericw]

No regrets (and no dogs). We rented a motor home for 2 weeks in Alaska with the same size bed so we were confident in the bed size before we put money down.

[salmo7000]

There always needs to be a dissenting opinion... we opted for the 19 specifically because it has a full size queen. We bought it after having never seen either a 19 or a 21. When we picked it up, we viewed all the models in Escape's showroom and had 0 regrets about getting the 19. I think the bed in the 21 would have been too tight for us. We are medium size folks, but I need my space! The crawl-over is a pain but most definitely not a deal-breaker. If you are happy sleeping right next to your partner and don't need space to sprawl, you'll be fine with the 21. If not, I'd get the 19. Of course, the best way to know for sure would be to try both out, if you can!

[Bea]

We find the Escape 21 bed to work really well. We don't think it is too tight, even though we sleep on a king bed at home.

One of our favorite aspects of the Escape 21 is not having to crawl over one another to get out of bed. It's a great, great feature.

[Mountain_gal]

Mark us down as happy with the 21. Crawl over was not acceptable for us.

Our dog sleeps on the floor

[stratos175]

We also sleep with two dogs in our 21' and one of them is a 50lb bulldog, its sort of liking sleeping with a hairy 50lb bag of flour once it lays down its there.
That being said we had a 17' Casita with the full queen and the climb over to get out non option. To me climbing over or skooching out is to different movements but the same thing, hard to do either without disturbing the person next to you so for that part I personally don't feel there's much difference between the two.

Also with a wall on each side of you in a 21' you get to use the full width of the bed because your not worried about falling out, at home you probably don't sleep right on the edge of your bed unless its against a wall.

We love our Escape and pretty sure it will be the last trailer we own, only reason I would change that is when we go more full time if they are making this 23' would look at that maybe.

Enjoy the journey.

Steve

[Perry Butler]

Originally Posted by stratos175

That being said we had a 17' Casita with the full queen and the climb over to get out non option. To me climbing over or skooching out is to different movements but the same thing, hard to do either without disturbing the person next to you so for that part I personally don't feel there's much difference between the two.

Also with a wall on each side of you in a 21' you get to use the full width of the bed because your not worried about falling out, at home you probably don't sleep right on the edge of your bed unless its against a wall.

I guess it's personal outlook.

When crawling over in either our 16' Scamp or 17' Casita we always seemed to wake the other person up. We skooch out of the queen in our 5.0 and literally never wake the other up.

Each of us has roughly 13" of space from the bed to the outside wall to throw our feet and arms. There is a lot more room to sleep when you're not up against a wall. In our previous campers we found the wall makes the bed smaller, not bigger.

In every camper there are compromises and there is no perfect camper. Escape meets our need at a price we could afford.

While we were creating our build sheet we probably talked to 20 or more owners either face to face of on the phone, and asked questions on the forum. Don't be shy, and remember, the only stupid question is the one not asked.


Enjoy,

Perry

[CADreamin]

Having had the 19' previously, we can say we much prefer the layout and bed of our 21'. The crawl-over itself wasn't so bad, it was the fact that the bed was so high off the floor! I slept next to the window so, if I had to get out in the middle of the night, it was not only crawling over my husband but trying to balance and get my foot down on the floor without tumbling off the bed (which I did on a number of occasions). While the queen was nice, we have not missed it and find the bed in the 21' gives us plenty of room (we sleep on a queen at home). While our dogs don't normally sleep with us, we let our 20 lb spaniel up with us on a recent camping trip and he did just fine. If you have a chance to see/try both the 19' and 21', that will certainly help you make up your mind.