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Old 01-19-2023, 03:08 PM   #1
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Escape model history

Posted this in another thread but figured I'd start a new one to assist others in finding it later with a search...

ETI started manufacturing the 17’ Escape in 2003. The 17’ was followed by the 5.0 (single axle) in 2007, 13’ and 19’ in 2009, 15' in 2010, the 21' in 2013, and the 5.0TA (dual axle) in 2014. The 13' production was put on hold in mid-2010 due to limited orders because of the popularity of the 15'. The 5.0 (single axle) was phased out in early 2014 with the introduction of the 5.0TA. The 15' ceased production in early 2015. I believe some 13's were built by request after the hold so the date is not definitive. The substantial change over to the "Gen 2" molds on the 17, 19, 21, and 5.0TA was a transition during 2016. Early model 2016 trailers are Gen 1 and some late 2016 models are the Gen 2. All 2017 models and later are the newer mold. The 21NE (19' floor plan in a 21) was introduced in 2020. The Escape 23 concept was introduced publicly in 2020 but as of today it is still in development.
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Old 01-19-2023, 03:14 PM   #2
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Thanks for laying out the timeline. Is there any way to know the production Quantities? I know the 15's were very low quantities but I would be interested in knowing how many single axle 5.0's were manufactured. How many Gen 1 - E19? How many Gen 2 - E19's?
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Old 01-19-2023, 03:20 PM   #3
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Thanks for laying out the timeline. Is there any way to know the production Quantities? I know the 15's were very low quantities but I would be interested in knowing how many single axle 5.0's were manufactured. How many Gen 1 - E19? How many Gen 2 - E19's?
Some random info on 13's and 15's out there on the forum but nothing I've seen on the others. Might be impossible to know unless Escape could provide it. With the change in ownership I'm guessing those numbers are not readily available.
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Some random info on 13's and 15's out there on the forum but nothing I've seen on the others. Might be impossible to know unless Escape could provide it. With the change in ownership I'm guessing those numbers are not readily available.
I kind of thought that to be the case. It would be interesting to know if there are 5,000 or 15,000 escapes in the wild.
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I have this about the 13' and the 15'.

ETI made: sixteen 13As and nine 13Bs = 25 (2008-2010), fifty-seven 15As and forty-seven 15Bs = 104 (2010-2015)

As far as the rest, I have the 10th 5.0TA Classic off the line and that's all I really care about
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I kind of thought that to be the case. It would be interesting to know if there are 5,000 or 15,000 escapes in the wild.
I can tell you the number is much closer to 5,000.
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Old 01-19-2023, 04:33 PM   #7
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I can tell you the number is much closer to 5,000.
I believe that Karl and Samuel were asked about the total number of trailers in existence during a recent YouTube QA session....and they stated about 5000.
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We bought our 2014 21C used about 5 years ago now ( hard to believe it's been that long ago). I was told even though it is titled as a 2014 it was actually manufactured the end of 2013, I know there is a sticker on the window in the door that has a date of February 2013. Since they did not start making the 21C until 2013 is there anyway to find out what number our trailer would be that they manufactured? Just curious, we plan to own our Escape until we die because it also works as an extra place to stay at our lake house that one day will be our home.

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Old 01-19-2023, 06:04 PM   #9
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I seem to recall a thread a few years ago where there was an explanation of how to decode the VIN numbers (serial numbers) of our trailers to determine the dates of manufacture and the numerical place in line of each trailer by model. Perhaps someone with a better memory than mine and better search skills can locate that info in the archives.


Interestingly, we were told by the party that sold us our new to us 2009 19 that ours was the ninth Escape 19 off the line. We have since "learned" from two other parties that they each own the ninth 19 off the line. Who knows?



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Old 01-19-2023, 06:13 PM   #10
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I believe that Karl and Samuel were asked about the total number of trailers in existence during a recent YouTube QA session....and they stated about 5000.
Yeah my very rough math was 1 trailer per day (quoting Reace prior to production expansion) x 5 days per week (assuming they don’t regularly work Saturdays) x 51 weeks (off one holiday week) x 21 years = 5,355. Their output was less than 1 trailer per day in the early years but they do more per day now (2+) so I’m averaging that out.
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Old 01-19-2023, 06:37 PM   #11
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Posted this in another thread but figured I'd start a new one to assist others in finding it later with a search...
This is great and interesting stuff, but I (and perhaps others) am a visual sort of person, so making a cut at that with the info you've provided.

Please (anyone) critique / correct my first draft, make suggestions for changes / additions, I'll revise accordingly and post without the watermark.

I don't want to get into the deep weeds of optional floorplan nuances but the 17A without bath and 17B with bath strikes me as significant in the overview (or maybe not? comments welcome!). Have both versions always been available concurrently or can you provide more detail on when the 17 A&B versions were made available?

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R&T didn't sign the final papers to sell until Aug. 1, 2018. You may want to adjust for this.
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R&T didn't sign the final papers to sell until Aug. 1, 2018. You may want to adjust for this.
Yeah, all of the exact dates and transitions are a bit difficult to 'nail down' within a given year while keeping the graphic simple, so I'm hoping that use of the basic Excel 'cell-fill fade' fairly conveys that lack of exactitude.

In this case a double fade within year 2018.

Certainly open to specific guidance for a better way of conveying that within the limits of my 'chart tool' which in this case is Excel.

Thanks for the comment!
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5,000 Escapes

Yes my wife asked the question recently and they replied appropriately 5,000 Escapes have been made.
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I don't want to get into the deep weeds of optional floorplan nuances but the 17A without bath and 17B with bath strikes me as significant in the overview (or maybe not? comments welcome!). Have both versions always been available concurrently or can you provide more detail on when the 17 A&B versions were made available?
The chart looks good to me. That is a very accurate representation of the chronology. The 17 was always available concurrently in both floor plans with and without a bath. A little known fact is that there are actually a few 19A's in existence. Reace orginally had planned to offer both floor plans but the overwhelming majority of early 19 orders were with a bath so they scrapped the "A" model. He accommodated owner requests in the early years. Probably more widely known is that ETI also made a couple of "flipped" 19's with permanent bed in front and the dinette in the rear. There are also a few dual dinette 19's and 21NE's out there.
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Old 01-19-2023, 08:52 PM   #16
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My 2018 17A is a dual dinette at my request. I don't know if there were any others made.
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Old 01-19-2023, 10:22 PM   #17
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The chart looks good to me.
OK, thanks, here for anyone interested ...
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We bought our 2014 21C used about 5 years ago now ( hard to believe it's been that long ago). I was told even though it is titled as a 2014 it was actually manufactured the end of 2013, I know there is a sticker on the window in the door that has a date of February 2013. Since they did not start making the 21C until 2013 is there anyway to find out what number our trailer would be that they manufactured? Just curious, we plan to own our Escape until we die because it also works as an extra place to stay at our lake house that one day will be our home.
From previous discussion on VIN #’s Iowa Dave’s 2013 21 was the 6th 21’ built and the 766th (last three VIN digits) Escape built. CPAharley supposedly had the 12th 21’ built (a 2014) and it was Escape’s 831st trailer. Seems hard to believe though that so many other models were made between the 6th and 12th 21’. Does the last 3 digits of your VIN fall between 766 and 831?
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Old 01-20-2023, 08:02 AM   #19
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The substantial change over to the "Gen 2" molds on the 17, 19, 21, and 5.0TA was a transition during 2016. Early model 2016 trailers are Gen 1 and some late 2016 models are the Gen 2..
With the delays in the new 5.0TA mould getting built, the first shells came out in later 2016. Mine is one of the first ones and was not available until later January 2017. All the new model 5.0TAs are 2017s.

Just a wee thing, but thought you might like to know. Interesting post none the less.

The delay in the new mould for the 5.0TA was the reason I purchased a temporary trailer to use for a year from the time I no longer had the 19 until I could get the new model 5.0TA. Reace had offered to immediately start one for me from the old moulds.....I passed on that a I really wanted the upgraded style.
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From previous discussion on VIN #’s Iowa Dave’s 2013 21 was the 6th 21’ built and the 766th (last three VIN digits) Escape built. CPAharley supposedly had the 12th 21’ built (a 2014) and it was Escape’s 831st trailer. Seems hard to believe though that so many other models were made between the 6th and 12th 21’. Does the last 3 digits of your VIN fall between 766 and 831?
Your facts are correct. After the initial run of 21s that Reace had immediate orders for, he went back to filling orders for other models ( like 17s, 19s etc). The trailer numbers were sequential irrespective of the model but they usually molded a few of one model and built them out and then the next order. That from when I talked to him at the last Rally as ownership was changing. So if you had a last three numbers of say 780, and you own a 19. You might run into an owner of a 17 with 779 or three owners with 19s of 779,780 (yours), 781,782. They were averaging about 9 to 11 trailers a week at that time. When the airplane door (classics) were discontinued production increased. If you are talking to original owners especially those who got the call that their trailer was ready and that they took delivery as soon as they could, and they know that date, you can narrow down your build date and where you are in the history sequence pretty closely.

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