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03-16-2017, 04:47 PM
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Font style for the decal
Hello all. I am sure this has been asked before, but does anyone know what font type is used for the Escape lettering? I want to but the name on the front window protector, and would like to match the lettering.
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03-16-2017, 04:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kkinna
Hello all. I am sure this has been asked before, but does anyone know what font type is used for the Escape lettering? I want to but the name on the front window protector, and would like to match the lettering.
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They've changed fonts over the years. This is the latest
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03-16-2017, 04:54 PM
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Thanks Donna. Mine is a 2010, so maybe I will call up to ETI and see which one it is.
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03-16-2017, 05:04 PM
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Looks like you'll be good to go with Handel Gothic. This is a 2010 19'. I found the picture in the For Sales
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03-16-2017, 07:38 PM
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Thank you!
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03-17-2017, 06:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
They've changed fonts over the years. This is the latest
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Donna,
Would you happen to know what font is used in the, "Proudly made in BC ... " label on the rear? Thanks!
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03-17-2017, 07:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zardoz
Donna,
Would you happen to know what font is used in the, "Proudly made in BC ... " label on the rear? Thanks!
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Can you attach a clear, straight on photo? Ten Forward isn't at home or else I'd go look.
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03-17-2017, 01:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
Can you attach a clear, straight on photo? Ten Forward isn't at home or else I'd go look.
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Here ya go, Donna! Just ignore, "the Wack" (I did that - done blame ETI  ) THANKS!
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03-17-2017, 01:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zardoz
Here ya go, Donna! Just ignore, "the Wack" (I did that - done blame ETI  ) THANKS!
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"WACK" .... what's that?
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03-17-2017, 01:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StarvingHyena
"WACK" .... what's that?
Tom
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That's how the folks in Chilliwack refer to their town. And it should be noted that I've never heard of locals being referred to as, "Wachadoodles" in case you're wondering.
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03-17-2017, 01:34 PM
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Song lyrics
Now that I have signed the build list I am thinking about having the lyrics of a song put on the side of the trailer in an area about 14 X 17. Has anyone done this? Can I go directly to the graphics shop in Chilliwack with a proposal? Not sure I want to pay a $200. build list change fee.
If it is too difficult or expensive I may just make a decorative sign and hang it from a 3M Command Hook.
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03-17-2017, 02:00 PM
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If you don't have a song in mind perhaps you might check out the rock band Chilliwack from Vancouver and see if any of their songs are to your liking?? Lead singer and guitarist is Bill Henderson. They had a few hits from the 1970's.
I only suggest that band because of the name connection to the cit of Chilliwack and ETI.
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03-17-2017, 03:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zardoz
Donna,
Would you happen to know what font is used in the, "Proudly made in BC ... " label on the rear? Thanks!
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It's Sanzettica 5 Heavy Condensed.
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03-17-2017, 03:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
It's Sanzettica 5 Heavy Condensed.
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Typeface names can be copyrighted, but the actual font is not copyrightable (at least in the USA). Hence, anyone can rip off the type design and slap on some stupid name (Sanzettica?) Microsoft chose to rename the typeface "Arial."
This typeface is Helvetica Regular, certainly NOT heavy, and certainly NOT condensed.
I'm an old (67), retired typographer and type designer, and I can sure give you some stories and opinions concerning the year 1985 and the digitation of everything.
But you know, time goes on, and change happens. Change is good.
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03-17-2017, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by citabria90
Typeface names can be copyrighted, but the actual font is not copyrightable (at least in the USA). Hence, anyone can rip off the type design and slap on some stupid name (Sanzettica?) Microsoft chose to rename the typeface "Arial."
This typeface is Helvetica Regular, certainly NOT heavy, and certainly NOT condensed.
I'm an old (67), retired typographer and type designer, and I can sure give you some stories and opinions concerning the year 1985 and the digitation of everything.
But you know, time goes on, and change happens. Change is good.
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It's certainly not Arial. It's the small details that are the "gottchas." In the case of the font used by ETI, it's the "R" in the font. Notice the differences? Yes, Helvetica is it. A font also owned by Linotype. Once upon a time, Helvetica was one of the standard typefaces that came loaded with the operating system. No longer. In fact due to licensing restrictions, you can't even embed the Helvetica font when generating a PDF unless you own the font. And Linotype considers it gold when you go to make the purchase. That's one of the reasons I suggested Sanzettica.
I started my career in 1968 as a typesetter. The very beginning of moving from hot type (lead) to digital. I spent the first years developing kerning pairs and ligatures, as the beginning typefaces didn't have any. Now when I wish to own a font, I look at the glypths and and need to know if the font is PUA enabled or if I'll need to use it in Adobe Illustrator.
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03-17-2017, 04:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zardoz
Would you happen to know what font is used in the, "Proudly made in BC ... " label on the rear?
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It's a Helvetica variation, but it's a little heavier (wider stoke compared to letter height) than the normal variant (Roman) in the Linotype Helvetica family... but not as heavy as their bold. These sorts of variants are available in competing fonts/typefaces as well.
Depending on what you want to do, a slight mismatch - or a deliberate significant difference - in stroke width may work well. You can use that Linotype web page to try out sample text in any variant, such as these (scaled so if you compare them at full size to the photo at full size they're about the same height):
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03-17-2017, 04:51 PM
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Wow, there is enough geekiness in typesetting/fonts to fill a book; and it has; probably hundreds. It's cool to have that expertise in the Escape community.
I love the history behind calling capital letters Upper Case. The capital type letters were in a tray (case) above the lower tray which held the more frequently used non-capitalized type. Hence the term upper case.
FYI. There are websites like diylettering.com where you can design stick-on lettering in any font and colored vinyl. It comes prespaced and ready to stick-on. I used it for my boat name.
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03-17-2017, 05:57 PM
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And it's certainly not Heavy Condensed, as stated. Sigh.
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03-17-2017, 06:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbrandenstein
Wow, there is enough geekiness in typesetting/fonts to fill a book; and it has; probably hundreds. It's cool to have that expertise in the Escape community.
I love the history behind calling capital letters Upper Case. The capital type letters were in a tray (case) above the lower tray which held the more frequently used non-capitalized type. Hence the term upper case.
FYI. There are websites like diylettering.com where you can design stick-on lettering in any font and colored vinyl. It comes prespaced and ready to stick-on. I used it for my boat name.
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Right on! I'm impressed that you know this! Like so many other things, like why do men's shirts buttons on to opposite side as womens', and why do the Brits drive on the "wrong" side of the road. History is so neat.
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03-17-2017, 07:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
It's Sanzettica 5 Heavy Condensed.
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Thanks Donna and thanks to everyone else who jumped in. I too am sufficiently old to have taken a typesetting class in 7th grade as part of a quarterly rotation with wood, metal, and home economics/budgeting class. Remember when public schools taught you stuff worth knowing and that made becoming a grownup easier?
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