Gen 1 vs. Gen 2 19 Escape

[thunderworks]

What are the major differences between the generations? Did the transition occur in 2017? We just paid a deposit for 2021 delivery of a 19’ trailer. There’s a 2016 for sale that maybe interesting. I know there was a generational transition but do know what the changes were.

R.

[Iowa Dave]

Originally Posted by thunderworks

What are the major differences between the generations? Did the transition occur in 2017? We just paid a deposit for 2021 delivery of a 19’ trailer. There’s a 2016 for sale that maybe interesting. I know there was a generational transition but do know what the changes were.

R.

The changeover occurred mid to late summer in 2016. First one I saw was our number one
Patient CPHarley AKA Jim Norman at the Mississippi River Rendezvous at Scott county park Iowa. On his way home from Chilliwack with his new 19.
Gone was the first gen curved body, airplane door and for a little while the manual awning. Also the pocket rolling screen door was replaced by a solid flat screen door. Others will chime in who know the rig better. We had the original 2010 19 at the time. So if you’re checking on the break-over changes you can just ask whether or not your for sale trailer has an airplane style door or not.
Here’s Jim’s Rig only hatched a few days before but already with 2,000 or so miles on it.

[Bill R]

We had a 2014 19' and now have a 2018 19'. A lot is the same, but there are a surprising number of differences (list is 2014 vs 2018):

frig: 4.3cf RM8551 dometic vs 5cf RM2554 dometic (better cooling)
door: 180-degree with clip vs 90-degree self-opening
screen door: roller vs fixed (much nicer)
stove: above-counter vs flush-mount with glass lid & igniter (nicer but pot size limits)
faucet: 2-handle w/baseplate vs single-handle w/pullout sprayer (nicer)
bike rack receiver hitch: optional vs standard
awning: manual w/curved arms vs electric or manual w/straight arms
interior/exterior led lights: optional vs standard
high-mount taillights w/turn signals: optional vs standard
digital thermostat: optional vs standard (allows ac fan to cycle off)
stainless steel range hood: optional vs standard
fresh-water tank: 20-gallon vs 28-gallon
kitchen overhead cabinet: larger vs smaller (due to awning recess)
kitchen lower cabinets: smaller vs larger
solar controller readout: upper cabinet over sink vs below dinette seat
kitchen range hood vent: really flimsy vs slightly flimsy
gray-tank dump piping: straight vs elbow
gray/black tank venting: 2 vents (isolated) vs 1 vent (black->gray overflow)
weight: lighter vs heavier (about 150lb)

2018-only features
bath has a medicine cabinet
door threshold has radius making it easy to sweep dirt outside (really clever)
Horst probes in black and gray tank monitor (much less false readings)
support pole for kitchen overhead cabinet
12-volt outlet has usb
bungy cord holding propane tank cover

I'm sure I forgot some.

Escape has made incremental changes year-to-year, so some of these differences may not be generational. For example, our 2014 was one of the first to have a powered exhaust fan in the bath - previous years had only a vent.

Most (but not all) of the changes in our 2018 are improvements and make for a nicer trailer.

Bill R

[thunderworks]

Thanks for the detailed input. . . the Gen 1 unit that I was considering appears to already be sold. I have a new trailer on order scheduled for next May delivery. I'm not surprised that the used trailer is already sold. It's part of the appeal of these trailers that the demand is high and they hold a huge amount of economic value.

[Pembyescape]

Oh and the curves on the Gen 1 are much more attractive. Think old school 993 vs 996 - if you know what i mean

[Doug2000]

We had an 2007 Escape 17B and now have a 2020 Escape 19. There are many differences that made it worth going new over used. Being in eastern Canada meant finding a used unit near impossible. New, we had to be patient. I found the quality of the build better. In 07, OSB was used, now they use quality plywood. The screen bi fold on the 07 was a pain, the new screen door, what an improvement. Our 17B didn't have a shower, thankfully our 2020 has one with the pandemic. Order new, get it the way you want it.

[Bill and Earline]

Great list, Bill R,

Tell about the windows. I'm not sure what the current choices are.
We have the double pane sliders.

Bill

[Bill R]

Originally Posted by Bill and Earline

Tell about the windows. I'm not sure what the current choices are.
We have the double pane sliders.

2014 had standard single-pane slider windows and optional double-pane sliders. Our 2014 had single-pane.

2018 had standard single-pane sliders, optional double-pane sliders, and optional thermal frameless (awning-style). Our 2018 has double-pane sliders. At the time, there were reliability issues with the frameless windows, so we went with the tried-and-true sliders.

Comparing single-pane and double-pane sliders, the double-pane insulate noticeably better, reduce more outside noise, and have less condensation. But they are heavier and cost more.

Someone more up-to-date will have to comment on the window options currently available.

Bill R