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07-07-2020, 11:46 AM
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Location: Portland, Oregon
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When you've had children and grandchildren, you're just thankful when they flush. No matter how it's done
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07-07-2020, 12:18 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
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My youngest GS used to use close to a whole roll of TP, we were thankful when he didn't flush.
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Bob
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07-07-2020, 01:23 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Phoenix, Arizona
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Foot flush is my wife’s favorite option, After having it now for 5 years, I like it much better. No problems with cable breaking, and honestly didn’t look that difficult to replace it if it ever did.
After having both types as Ron referenced, i prefer the foot flush. We are also in the camp of not using the campground facilities, we use the trailer bathroom.
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07-07-2020, 01:33 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: San Diego, California
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If it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's brown, I'm already sitting down.
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07-07-2020, 01:34 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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I went to the foot flush in our 5.0TA after having the hand flush in our 19 and other trailers. It is not any easier to use in my opinion, and the foot pedal is starting to show wear in the form of looking buffed by shoes, which it has been.
If buying again, I would go the hand flush route.
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07-07-2020, 02:04 PM
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Join Date: May 2013
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Of course we must remember there are always exceptions...
....I know, I know, if the shoe fits... (not a political statement.)
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07-07-2020, 02:05 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Venice, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
You press a lever. Just like at home.
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Not exactly.
You pull a lever and water comes out of a spout into your bowl, you pull the lever further and the valve at the bottom of the bowl opens and everything goes into the black water tank.
The lever is located at bowl level so you'll be bent over the bowl as you're doing it. If you have the lid closed you can't see if the bowl is clear of all you put into it. If the lid is open your face is over the bowl as you pull the lever.
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Originally Posted by Voyager
RV shopping the past month I noticed all the RVs have this foot flush, but I wasn’t sure why and I never asked. But now I know. Which begs the question..if this is such a great idea than why don’t we have them at home?
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Because at home the flush valve is elevated on the reservoir tank, on an RV the hand flush valve is on the back edge of the bowl.
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Originally Posted by MyronL
Get real, people. You flush it WHILE you are sitting. If you are standing and you have the foot flush thing and you have senior-eyeitis like me you would rather not risk using a foot to flush because you could miss the lever or bust the thing.
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I don't flush when I'm sitting, it's not a bidet, yet my parts would feel like it was.
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Originally Posted by Ron in BC
After seeing Glenn's black tank content checking photo and reading Donna's left hand lean over flush technique I'm getting some vivid toilet images fixed on my brain.
Like most trailer items that have divided opinions I have to say, until you've had both types, it's hard to know the pros and cons of each.
Ron
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I've had a hand flush, and originally was planning on getting one again, because people posted about having to raise your foot and balance.
Then I remembered how much I disliked having my face in the bowl with my hand flush, and decided on the foot flush.
I reinforced the bathroom wall so I can add a real grab rail there if I ever need it in the future. So, I think I'm covered.
After using my new trailer, I will have had both and can speak better about the cons of the foot flush.
For now, the only pro the hand flush has seem to be reliability, everything else in my mind is a con.
If reliability turns out to be an issue with the foot flush, and I've got to pull the toilet and replace the cable, I may have a greater negative view of foot flush. Only time will tell.
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07-07-2020, 02:23 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
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The only issue I see with the hand flush is what if you are left handed...........
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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07-07-2020, 03:14 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Upper Midwest, Minnesota
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...not left footed?
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07-07-2020, 03:21 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Lewis
I have the hand-flush toilet. But then I read that the foot-flush toilet valve linkage can break, so now I guess I'll stick with what I have.
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Our neighbors would always buy cars without electric windows as they were afraid they would break- or drive into a lake and not be able to get out.
We've had the trailer just shy of six years with a lot of use and have never had a problem; however we don't slam the pedal down to flush. Way better than reaching to the back of the toilet to flush. For those who reach around behind, beware of damage to the shoulder as that is not something you regularly do. A friend did that in her car and had to have her rotator cuff repaired.
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07-07-2020, 05:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
The only issue I see with the hand flush is what if you are left handed...........
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Because the world is right handed, us lefties have developed the ability to use our right hands better than most righties can use their lefts. Although I still hate to pick up a pair of scissors...
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07-07-2020, 05:59 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Tampa Bay Area, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilye
Because the world is right handed, us lefties have developed the ability to use our right hands better than most righties can use their lefts. Although I still hate to pick up a pair of scissors...
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Honestly, I do not know if I am right handed or left handed. I write with my left hand. But if I try to hammer a nail with my left hand, forget it, I would miss the nail 9 times out of 10, and if I did hit it the power in my stroke would be lacking. I typically hold a screwdriver or a handsaw in my right hand. I can cut more accurately with scissors using my right hand. When I played baseball as a kid I could switch hit, but can’t throw worth a damn with my left hand. And although I have had trailers with both hand and foot levers, I do prefer the hand levers. And it would be equally easy for me to flush no matter which side of the toilet the lever was on. Oh, and I forgot to mention; I drive on the right hand side of the road, unless I am in the UK of course!
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07-07-2020, 09:19 PM
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Camping deprivation has set in and we’re hopefully nearing an all time low in the search for controversial topics.
What is a right hand door?
I can’t stand the blue lights on the refrigerator when I sleep?
Why is a foot flush superior to a hand flush?
Let me out, I’m like a man in a cage!
Iowa Dave
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07-07-2020, 09:30 PM
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Ambidextrous
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Originally Posted by C&G in FL
Honestly, I do not know if I am right handed or left handed. I write with my left hand. But if I try to hammer a nail with my left hand, forget it, I would miss the nail 9 times out of 10, and if I did hit it the power in my stroke would be lacking. I typically hold a screwdriver or a handsaw in my right hand. I can cut more accurately with scissors using my right hand. When I played baseball as a kid I could switch hit, but can’t throw worth a damn with my left hand. And although I have had trailers with both hand and foot levers, I do prefer the hand levers. And it would be equally easy for me to flush no matter which side of the toilet the lever was on. Oh, and I forgot to mention; I drive on the right hand side of the road, unless I am in the UK of course!
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Hi Carl,
I am fully dominant right side, However, I have a younger brother who is like you, uses either hand just about equally well. We were hunting once and he had to make a hard crossing shot. I watched him switch shoulders as he raised the gun to facilitate the swing and used his left eye to aim with on that target. I always wished I could do that. I I taught myself to fish and cast with either hand. The pros will tell you that if you don’t switch hands between the cast and the retrieve with a casting outfit you’ll get about 25% more “lure in the water” time per day and increase your catch.
Iowa Dave
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07-07-2020, 09:31 PM
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I'm so desperate I bought a generator.
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07-07-2020, 09:38 PM
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Purchases
Quote:
Originally Posted by MyronL
I'm so desperate I bought a generator.
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Hi Myron
Sometimes buying something you don’t really need or might not actually use very much makes me feel better. When my wife asks me why I bought something I explain how it’s used if she doesn’t know. Then I say “I might get into it.”
I have lots of ideas but not much follow through. I have a Tiffany style lamp kit that I bought in 1971. It’s still new in the box. Might build it next winter when it’s snowing . Ever cast any bottom bouncer sinkers? How about powder paint equipment for fishing jig heads? Yup, got those too.
Iowa Dave
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07-07-2020, 10:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by C&G in FL
Honestly, I do not know if I am right handed or left handed. I write with my left hand. But if I try to hammer a nail with my left hand, forget it, I would miss the nail 9 times out of 10, and if I did hit it the power in my stroke would be lacking.
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You're lucky that you didn't grow up where I did. In Grade 4 they made everyone learning to write use their right hand even if they already printed with their left hand. I rebelled in a minor way, I wrote back handed with my right hand. Certainly didn't help my writing. As I've always said, I can write equally poorly with either hand.
But in a way it did work out well in some areas. I can switch tools from one hand to the other and not miss a beat. But I'm glad they don't force the hand switch on kids anymore. Come to think of it, they don't even teach cursive writing anymore.
Ron
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07-08-2020, 08:23 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by C&G in FL
Honestly, I do not know if I am right handed or left handed. I write with my left hand. But if I try to hammer a nail with my left hand, forget it, I would miss the nail 9 times out of 10, and if I did hit it the power in my stroke would be lacking. I typically hold a screwdriver or a handsaw in my right hand. I can cut more accurately with scissors using my right hand. When I played baseball as a kid I could switch hit, but can’t throw worth a damn with my left hand. And although I have had trailers with both hand and foot levers, I do prefer the hand levers. And it would be equally easy for me to flush no matter which side of the toilet the lever was on. Oh, and I forgot to mention; I drive on the right hand side of the road, unless I am in the UK of course!
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I am similar to you. I write and hold a fork with my left hand. I typically shoot a hockey puck, bat a baseball, throw a ball, or swing a squash racket right handed. I also can use a computer mouse, paddle a canoe, scratch my butt, or pick my nose equally well with right or left hands.
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07-08-2020, 09:27 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Danbury, Wisconsin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rossue
Our neighbors would always buy cars without electric windows as they were afraid they would break- or drive into a lake and not be able to get out.
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I worked with a guy who was from the same school of thought His truck had crank windows and he refused to wear a seatbelt because if he went into a pond or lake on the way home from the bar he didn’t want to be trapped in his vehicle .
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07-08-2020, 09:59 AM
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Those guys usually miss a corner a half a mile from home, roll the truck in a ditch and total it. A lot of times they walk away but passengers die. Then after everything calms down, they come back into work asking for breaks so they can get their life back together. Which they rarely do.
Iowa Dave
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