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09-23-2013, 02:49 PM
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Jim, you forgot to add in the time it took to post this reply.
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09-23-2013, 05:11 PM
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just for my own edification (strange word -- ) what is wrong with the lights that are generally installed? Are they glaring?
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09-23-2013, 05:22 PM
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Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruthe
just for my own edification (strange word -- ) what is wrong with the lights that are generally installed? Are they glaring?
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The standard 12V incandescent lights are fine, but are not nearly as energy efficient as the LED lights, which will greatly prolong the time required between battery charges. Many of those who like to camp off the grid will elect to switch out the lighting to LED's. If you always camp at sites with electrical services, having LED lighting is not as great an issue.
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09-23-2013, 05:38 PM
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to give an example, you can turn on 10 led lights and that equals the battery draw on one incandescent bulb. Thus if you have one battery you can extend your stay with lights by a factor of 10 with all other things equal.
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09-23-2013, 08:36 PM
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Anyone know how many LED lights that come standard with the 19?
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09-23-2013, 08:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruthe
Anyone know how many LED lights that come standard with the 19?
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12 counting the double fixtures in the ceiling as 2 each. This does not count the exterior lighting.
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09-23-2013, 09:31 PM
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Does the 21 have the same number?
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09-24-2013, 06:52 AM
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I'm not sure, but I'd guessestimate at least that much, new photos will be coming soon according to Reace.
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09-24-2013, 12:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fudge_brownie
Third these are using SMD's rather than LED's a minor difference but they are smaller.
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Just to clarify the terminology, "SMD" means "surface mounted device", and just describes the package... they're still LEDs (Light Emitting Diodes). An SMD is just soldered right onto the board surface, instead of standing up on two leads like legs. High-power LEDs are usually SMDs.
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09-25-2013, 12:32 AM
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The question how many lights come with a 19.
I think the answer is "How many have you asked for".
and what do you want others to see, We have a vertical set of lights next to the rear window "Brake and Signal". We have the standard marker lights on the side and top corners, incandescent on the license plate.
All interior lights with the exception of the exhaust fan light.
I am sorry I did not ask for a strip of yellow over the front window on the outside.
On one battery I can go for a week plus.
Doug
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09-25-2013, 06:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukon Escape
I am sorry I did not ask for a strip of yellow over the front window on the outside.
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Why? A trailer over 2 metres (80") wide (such as the Escape 19) needs width clearance lights on the front edges, and a tall enough trailer needs height clearance lights on the top of the front (and the Escape lights in the top front corners cover both requirements), but no trailer needs a wide-vehicle identification group of three lights in the front middle.
What would the strip be for? Maybe I've just misunderstood the description.
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10-23-2013, 05:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ice-breaker
The standard 12V incandescent lights are fine, but are not nearly as energy efficient as the LED lights, which will greatly prolong the time required between battery charges. Many of those who like to camp off the grid will elect to switch out the lighting to LED's. If you always camp at sites with electrical services, having LED lighting is not as great an issue.
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To add to this, the incandescent bulbs seem to dim over time where the LEDs don't.
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10-23-2013, 08:18 PM
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For anyone getting LED bulbs themselves, you might want to get a bulb and try it before you buy more. You may have one that is not as bright as the incandescents and you may not consider the LED to be sufficient for reading. On the other hand, you might have an LED that is incredibly bright.
Having some of both may also come in handy at times.
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10-23-2013, 09:15 PM
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