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Old 07-06-2016, 07:23 AM   #41
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We talked to Sarah yesterday Things that would like to have
A-special hinge over microwave cabinet that holds cabinet door open.
B-a much bigger outside hatch under front bed in 21
She said she would look into but probably not for bigger hatch also she was not aware of special hinge
I forgot to ask her about color of standard Formica for ETI?
Options for sure
1-battery upgrade
2-solar panel
3-flip black stove they want $50
4-2way water heater
5-A/C
6-TV ready with King Jack and TV arm
7-counter extension of kitchen counter
8-storage cubby outside bathroom
9-exterior shower
10-extra insulation still trying to decide $1000/1500
11-fridge fan
12-standard floor
13 sunbrella order through Patio Lane and send to ETI
14-Formica what color is standard ??
options that we are considering
a-front storage box
b-wireless back up or wired ?
c-microwave
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:32 AM   #42
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I found that changing the color of the trim from white to brown or black made a world of difference to the "look" and the change is free!! The stock formica is like a brownish marble and the brown/black trim really hi-lights it. As far as the hatch, there is little room for expansion as there are utilities under the bed restricting the size. There is always the interior hatch under the bed that is large.
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Stock Formica is 3523-58 Giallo Granite
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:48 AM   #44
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Stock Formica is 3523-58 Giallo Granite
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Here is ours with cream trim. Like CPA says, with dark trim (dark brown or black) it looks a little different.
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I found that changing the color of the trim from white to brown or black made a world of difference to the "look" and the change is free!! The stock formica is like a brownish marble and the brown/black trim really hi-lights it. As far as the hatch, there is little room for expansion as there are utilities under the bed restricting the size. There is always the interior hatch under the bed that is large.
Hi: cpaharlet2008... After having the white edge trim, and light Formica, in our 5.0 we really like the brown. We changed the stock Formica to the darker Butterrum Granite. I think it works well with the stock flooring too. Tammy said it is what they used to use, and still available!!! Alf
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Old 07-09-2016, 10:01 AM   #47
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Thanks everyone for helping us decide on options .We will have trailer delivered to Goshen Indiana this Fall .Hopefully they can get 1 more trailer on this load to lesson the $ charged .
We are stuck on fabric color since blinds are MOCHA color so what we had in mind will not do . Back to the drawing board for Fabric .next the Formica I'm wondering if a Green fabric will go with Formica standard? Things we need help on.
1-we are going with extra insulation but what windows to go with ? 1000/1500
2-Fabric Green family ? We will look at Sunbrella fabrics this week
3-pick a Formica top ? We are going to Lowes to look at samples
4-battery choice a 29 single .We have never run out of power with a 24 series in our Lil Snoozy.
5-Still undecided on front box for $700 ? I have to look at alternatives metal /plastic etc.


Options that are on our build sheet
1-A/C
2-microwave
3-160 w solar
4-2 way H2O
5-ext shower
6-1 counter ext
7-storage cubby by bath
8-extra fridge fan
9-12 volt drops in upper cabinets
10-flip burners for more counter space
11-rear camera drop wire for wired back up camera ?
12-King Jack antenna and tv swing arm

I think that's it ? Any thoughts ?
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Old 07-09-2016, 11:34 AM   #48
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Hi: cpaharlet2008... After having the white edge trim, and light Formica, in our 5.0 we really like the brown. We changed the stock Formica to the darker Butterrum Granite. I think it works well with the stock flooring too. Tammy said it is what they used to use, and still available!!! Alf
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I called about the Butterrum granite yesterday because we liked it, but I was told it is no longer available as a standard color, so you have to pay the upgrade charge and I assume source it yourself. We can get the brown formica trim though and we plan to do that because we think it looks better as well.
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Old 07-09-2016, 11:42 AM   #49
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1-we are going with extra insulation but what windows to go with ? 1000/1500
We are most likely going with the frameless thermal option due to the fact that you get an opening rear window and thermal escape hatch window vs. the non-frameless version which is non-opening rear and single-pane escape I believe. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

We are going for the max cold-weather capability, so every little bit of improvement is important to us in that area.

ETI told me there is no weight difference between the 2 thermal window options for what that's worth.
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If you get the non frameless thermal the escape window is thermal also...
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Ron, the Butter Rum being a non standard color just means there's an up charge. As long as it's still available from Formica, they can get it. You don't have to supply it.


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Old 07-10-2016, 10:47 AM   #52
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Where is the trim located people have been talking about trim on Formica where is this we are about to go Lowes to get samples of Formica
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Where is the trim located people have been talking about trim on Formica where is this we are about to go Lowes to get samples of Formica
The little strip around the edges.
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Old 07-10-2016, 11:30 AM   #54
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OK, I'm sure this was discussed before but I must have missed it. It's a bit strange that the options for the old style say "Thermal Windows (Not all windows available in Thermal)" and for the new it says "Frame-less Thermal Windows (Includes Opening Rear Window, Frt. Window with Rock Shield Non-Thermal)", but it's really the same number of thermal windows. I may have to rethink that one later. I'll wait to see what the first owners that get them say.
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Where is the trim located people have been talking about trim on Formica where is this we are about to go Lowes to get samples of Formica
It's called "T" molding Jim, because viewed from the end of the strip it looks like a T. The base of the T goes into a groove in the edge of the countertop or table. Escape will do it in 4 colors I believe: White, Tan, Brown and Black. It's usually pretty easy to determine which of those would work with your chosen Formica color.
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OK, I'm sure this was discussed before but I must have missed it. It's a bit strange that the options for the old style say "Thermal Windows (Not all windows available in Thermal)" and for the new it says "Frame-less Thermal Windows (Includes Opening Rear Window, Frt. Window with Rock Shield Non-Thermal)", but it's really the same number of thermal windows. I may have to rethink that one later. I'll wait to see what the first owners that get them say.
Regular windows, all slide open but front w/awning guard and back. Thermal, all are thermal sliders except the front w/awning guard and bath window, all open except the front and back. Frameless Thermal, all are thermal awning style, including bath all open except for front/w awning guard. I hope this helps. The kitchen window is optional in the 17 and 19 as are the bath windows. The 21 has kitchen as standard and bath is optional.
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If your Lowe's is anything like ours, you'll be sorely disappointed by what you find there. The samples are small, limited in selection and if you pick up the brochure, half of what you fall in love with will be discontinued. But, they're a starting point.

To get a better idea of what's available, go to the Formica site and cruise around there. Look at the various colors and then click on "get free sample" or however it's worded. If you get a choice of sizes, get the larger size. There's a limit to how many you can get (10, I think), but you can always place another order for more samples. I can't think how I know that!

Then, when you get all those free samples in hand, start looking them over, tossing aside the ones that don't look as great in person as they did on their site and another pile for "yeah, I like this one" colors. Get it narrowed down. Compare it to the custom flooring and fabrics you want (if going that route). Eventually you'll know what you want.
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Called Formica and they sent 5X7 samples.
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Yep, you don't want to make a decision based on a business card size sample. I almost made a very, very bad mistake. I fell in love with a small sample, fortunately ordered the 5x7.... and hated it! It would have made me sick if I had gone with that first instinct. I think the same goes for the fabric. You can get samples from a lot of places, but if you can get a yard that's even better. I found the yard I needed on eBay and was very glad I did. You can always use that extra yard to make pillows.
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We found some nice fabric and some Formica that should go nicely ?How do we post that again ?
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