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Old 05-09-2020, 12:03 PM   #1
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Friends of ours have just purchased SOB trailer. It like the floor plan and think it could work for the new Escape 23.


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Old 05-09-2020, 12:46 PM   #2
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Sister-in-law bought a small sticky that had a "sofa" at one end ( as shown ). Not sure what you do with it. Do you sit and watch to see if anybody leaves the bathroom? I guess you can sort of twist your neck and look out that window. Not very useful for playing cards or eating dinner.

Not sure what it's good for besides sitting.
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Old 05-09-2020, 03:58 PM   #3
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Sister-in-law bought a small sticky that had a "sofa" at one end ( as shown ). Not sure what you do with it. Do you sit and watch to see if anybody leaves the bathroom? I guess you can sort of twist your neck and look out that window. Not very useful for playing cards or eating dinner.

Not sure what it's good for besides sitting.
I can think of a bunch of things its good for. Sitting and reading, Sitting and having a chat. Sitting and watching TV (my wife's thing more than mine, I'd be reading a book most likely).

anyways, on that floor plan, that sofa is also a 'murphy bed'. the bed pulls down over the sofa. for eating or playing cards, there's the dinette.
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Old 05-09-2020, 10:20 PM   #4
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23' trailer and a dinette for two. We don't often have another couple sitting in our dinette but it's nice to have that option. On the other hand I consider the new 21NE to be overdinetted. Oh well, to each their own.

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Old 05-09-2020, 11:15 PM   #5
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That's a kinda nifty plan, IMO
  • The full-width rear bath with wardrobe inside makes a nice 'private dressing room' with the 'pottie for a seat' ..... if'n it's ventilated well-enough to avoid 'damp clothes syndrome' in the wardrobe (?).
  • I like that the RB avoids the 'aisle pinch' inevitable with a side bath - sure makes for an open-feeling plan.
  • I'm with John in Santa Cruz on the utility of the sofa / dinette plan for a couple who like a spacious feeling main area
  • That's a 21' OAL, not sure what you'd do with +2' of a 23 OAL ... perhaps storage for a couple of cushioned folding chairs and table so guests could dine / play cards opposite sofa-sitters in that spacious 'living room'? More countertop / kitchen pantry? Both?
  • Downside - it does lack any ability to separate the bed from the rest for couples having different sleep schedules
  • Upside - sure is an 'open and airy' plan!
IMO it makes better use of the murphy-bed concept than that presented in the E23 'preview', for those inclined to mess with a hide-a-bed in return for useful 'daytime' floor-space.

Admitting I'm not a fan of Big-U dinettes ... maybe they work fine for a group concentrating on eating, but for for after-dinner socializing I dislike being the 'trapped inside persons' who have to disturb others to get-up and walk.
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I'm pretty happy with my classic E21 rear U shaped dinette.







I have the dicor 2-way slider on a springfield pedestal...
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My family had a Shasta 19 that was very similar to the Escape 19, except that the rear had a gaucho sofa that made into a bed. It wasn't a queen width, but the difference was made up by having a wider wardrobe and more kitchen counter space. Because it was 8' wide, the aisle space was very generous. With that +7' gaucho at the rear, everybody in our 5 person family had plenty of space to sit comfortably. People could converse easily while sitting at both ends. I really liked that trailer.
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Friends of ours have just purchased SOB trailer. It like the floor plan and think it could work for the new Escape 23.
We had a trailer very similar to this (a couple of trailers ago) and we initially thought the Murphy bed was a great idea. In actual use, we found that it wasn't very practical. Difficult to always having to lift it up and putting to down. When down, you lose a lot of that space that you think you had. Just our wooden nickels worth...
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Old 05-10-2020, 04:36 PM   #9
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For me if it doesn’t have windows on 4 sides, I’m not interested ! Everyone different!
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For me if it doesn’t have windows on 4 sides, I’m not interested ! Everyone different!


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Old 05-11-2020, 08:19 AM   #11
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For me if it doesn’t have windows on 4 sides, I’m not interested ! Everyone different!
Though not possible on the front of the 5.0TA, I pretty much agree. Having lots window space is fantastic.

We are outside as much as possible too, but there sometimes is ugly weather that keeps us inside. Nice then to have a view and the nice natural light. The 19 wins over the other models in this category.
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