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Old 09-07-2017, 08:14 PM   #1
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Nifty New RV Ideas

I know we all love our Escapes. But... would you like to see Escape incorporate some of these ideas in the future: Alde heat system, Froli bed supports, indirect led lighting, aluminum frames, inconspicuous air conditioners?

https://tab.nucamprv.com/tab-400-tea...mper-features/

Food for thought.
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:16 PM   #2
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We're good on the bed. A heating or cooling system that didn't produce a racket would be very nice however. The last one is just me, but I'd love to see an aluminum frame and a bulldog type coupler standard.
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I know we all love our Escapes. But... would you like to see Escape incorporate some of these ideas in the future: Alde heat system, Froli bed supports, indirect led lighting, aluminum frames, inconspicuous air conditioners?

https://tab.nucamprv.com/tab-400-tea...mper-features/

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Maybe as options. No details on the heat system or air conditioner on that page. I would rather have a conspicuous air conditioner rather than lose bench storage. You can add Froli yourself anytime.
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Old 09-08-2017, 01:02 AM   #4
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I was surprised by the reference to an aluminum frame for a T@b... then I realized that they mean aluminum framing in the walls and roof, not the chassis. No, I would not prefer that to cored fiberglass composite.
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... I'd love to see ... a bulldog type coupler standard.
Not me. I've never towed with one, but I've tried opening and closing the Bulldog Collar-Lok forged coupler on trailers at dealerships, and I find the locking collar and its latching mechanism awkward, compared to the yoke type which I have and which is used by Escape. That's assuming that you mean the forged type - Bulldog also has cast Wedge-Latch couplers, but it seems like people are usually referring to the Collar-Lok when they say "Bulldog".
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... inconspicuous air conditioners?

https://tab.nucamprv.com/tab-400-tea...mper-features/
Escape had an inconspicuous (cabinet-mounted, rather than rooftop) air conditioner in early 17-foot units. Some people like them; others complain about the loss of storage in the cabinet, and other issues.
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Not me. I've never towed with one, but I've tried opening and closing the Bulldog Collar-Lok forged coupler on trailers at dealerships, and I find the locking collar and its latching mechanism awkward, compared to the yoke type which I have and which is used by Escape. That's assuming that you mean the forged type - Bulldog also has cast Wedge-Latch couplers, but it seems like people are usually referring to the Collar-Lok when they say "Bulldog".
I had a customer stop by for an installation on his 21 who had a Bulldog coupler who later changed it out for an Anderson because he also found the Bulldog troublesome.
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The Little Guy Max, similar to the T@b has some nifty features I would like to see, there is the disappearing tv in the front dinette and a radio with built in weather, and a lighted entry handle.
These features make them unique http://golittleguy.com/lg-max/
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The Little Guy Max, similar to the T@b has some nifty features I would like to see, there is the disappearing tv in the front dinette and a radio with built in weather, and a lighted entry handle.
These features make them unique http://golittleguy.com/lg-max/
Impressive trailer. Nice fit and finish and thoughtful design elements. Layout seems very similar to the Escape 19. One thing that is awkward is the super small awning due to the shape of the shell.
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Impressive trailer. Nice fit and finish and thoughtful design elements. Layout seems very similar to the Escape 19. One thing that is awkward is the super small awning due to the shape of the shell.
Trus, but there are after market tent awning rooms available, I had one with my T@da.
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Impressive trailer. Nice fit and finish and thoughtful design elements. Layout seems very similar to the Escape 19. One thing that is awkward is the super small awning due to the shape of the shell.
You mentioned fit and finish....

I know someone who had a T@b and he said, with great detail, how the build quality was horrible, and the dealer wanted nothing to do with it after the sale.

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You mentioned fit and finish....

I know someone who had a T@b and he said, with great detail, how the build quality was horrible, and the dealer wanted nothing to do with it after the sale.

Just to be clear I was referring to the Little Guy Max that Jim linked, not the T@b. http://golittleguy.com/lg-max/
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Alde heat

More info on Alde heat system. It works with propane or electric, uses a pump rather than a fan.

http://www.alde.se/usa/heat-technology/how-it-works/
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More info on Alde heat system. It works with propane or electric, uses a pump rather than a fan.

Alde - USA
The 12V circulation pump draws between 3 and 37 watts. Think this system is best used when plugged into power. I wouldn't want to lose the interior height to accommodate the return air ducts, either.

Nice concept for a big stickie, though.
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I like the Alde system in some ways, but I think it needs to be incorporated into the design of the RV... which is the suggestion, of course. It probably doesn't make sense as an option, because of that.

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The 12V circulation pump draws between 3 and 37 watts. Think this system is best used when plugged into power.
That's similar to fan power for a furnace - 1/4 amp to 3 amps.

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I wouldn't want to lose the interior height to accommodate the return air ducts, either.
There are no real return air ducts in the basic system - just liquid-filled radiators - but allowing spaces for air flow would be a concern for most RV interior designs.
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