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Old 04-26-2018, 09:22 AM   #21
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When I built mobile homes ages ago when folrmalghide was used in the paneling back then we would put 5 gallon buckets of plain charcoal in the trailers to absorbe the odors. It worked great, one might try that.
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Old 04-26-2018, 09:30 AM   #22
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Open all the interior cabinet doors when you are airing out your 21, especially the door to the space under the bed. The under-bed storage space seems to retain chemical smells for a long time. At least I think that's what I'm smelling.
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Old 04-26-2018, 09:49 AM   #23
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Open all the interior cabinet doors when you are airing out your 21, especially the door to the space under the bed. The under-bed storage space seems to retain chemical smells for a long time. At least I think that's what I'm smelling.
Hi: Mike Lewis... People would pay a small fortune for "That new car smell"!!! In those cases when I was in the biz I bought small atomizers of it and used it liberally. Alf
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Old 04-26-2018, 09:58 AM   #24
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I'm so sorry you're experience this difficulty! I hope some of the suggestions can help so your wife can enjoy camping. The charcoal sounds promising.
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Old 04-26-2018, 10:01 AM   #25
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Hi: Mike Lewis... People would pay a small fortune for "That new car smell"!!! In those cases when I was in the biz I bought small atomizers of it and used it liberally. Alf
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Old 04-26-2018, 11:20 AM   #26
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Very sorry to hear of your struggles, I have known several people that are hypersensitive to the off gassing issues and it’s serious. Our 19 had fairly heavy off gassing issues and it took about 9 months to no longer have the odors after it had been closed up for awhile. I think the AZ heat may have played a bit of a role in it being so prevalent.
We use an ozone generator to recondition our rentals if there has been a smoker and they work incredibly. My buddy had some bad odors in a used trailer he bought and put an ozone generator in and closed the trailer for about a week. Never had any more odor issues.
Hope you find a resolution soon.
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Old 04-26-2018, 11:46 AM   #27
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We use an ozone generator to recondition our rentals if there has been a smoker and they work incredibly. My buddy had some bad odors in a used trailer he bought and put an ozone generator in and closed the trailer for about a week. Never had any more odor issues.
Hope you find a resolution soon.
I'll second the ozone generator as highly effective at odors, but I don't have experience with if it helps sensitive allergies. It is one of the standard commercial techniques after a fire for example. Theoretically, to me at least, it should be much more effective than just running air through or masking the smell.

We run the fan most of the time we are in the trailer to keep air moving through and find it effective at keeping any out gassing in control.

I hope you find resolution soon.
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Old 04-26-2018, 11:56 AM   #28
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I guess that I would run as many fans around as I could with everything open. That is a bad problem to have. The ozone generator sounds good.
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Info on ozone generators and links to indoor air quality info - worth a read:https://www.epa.gov/indoor-air-quali...d-air-cleaners
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Old 04-26-2018, 12:22 PM   #30
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I'm also wondering about the outgassing on my new 19 due in a month or so. Planning to run the fan continuously with a window or two open at all times for at least a couple of months. I have used Zeolite in new cars and that seemed to help some. It's available in large bags at Tractor Supply and probably other places catering to agriculture. Regarding ozone generators, I know they will kill off odors but not sure they would do anything to curtail continuing outgassing of materials in the trailer.
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Old 04-26-2018, 12:39 PM   #31
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I like Oldtimers suggestion about the charcoal and will use some when we pick up our new trailer.
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Old 04-26-2018, 02:08 PM   #32
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Does anyone know what chemicals are in the components of the trailer? Does anyone know how to speed the outgassing? Any suggestions appreciated!
The only way to get a list of all the chemicals used would be to get them from the material manufacturers. It'd be quite a list I should think. Generally, the offgassing is coming from chemicals in the paneling, the lacquer on the cabinet doors, the adhesives, the vinyl, the foam in the cushions, and the fiberglass resin in the shell. The good news is that these do dissipate. The bad news is that for those with chemical sensitivities, it can be a long wait until the offgassing reaches levels that allow them to use the trailer with no reaction. Another thing to consider, as I'm sure you're already aware, is that the nose is not a reliable indicator of the presence of chemicals that could cause a reaction. Many of the gasses given off by the materials used in the trailer are odorless.

In any case, I'm sorry that you are having these difficulties. My best advice would be to try and park the trailer in the hottest place you can find, and perhaps run the furnace as well, and to ventilate it by opening windows, doors and cabinets. Heat causes the gasses to be extracted from the materials more rapidly.
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Old 04-26-2018, 03:07 PM   #33
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We ran the maxi fan constantly the first summer (we camped for two months after picking it up). It took a solid year for the smell to go away, but it never left completely. When the trailer has been closed up for awhile, the smell will come back. When we put down our deposit I knew I'd have to deal with outgassing, but I'm not as sensitive to it as your wife. I hope some of these suggestions work for you. I'm sure you are both so disappointed.
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Old 04-26-2018, 03:18 PM   #34
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My wife, Rachel, cannot be in our Escape 21! It was completed January 30, 2018. I picked it up March 21, 2018, parked it and ran MaxxFan and a 20" fan all day with windows open and closed at night. I ran the furnace three times for a couple of hours with the windows closed. Then repeated the airing.



Today was to be our shake down run. The temperature here in Bend, OR reached 82F today, April 25, and she could not even be in the trailer! She started to react right away. She does have chemical allergies, or multiple chemical sensitivities (MCS, for those in the know).



Does anyone know what chemicals are in the components of the trailer? Does anyone know how to speed the outgassing? Any suggestions appreciated!



I've contacted Escape and am awaiting a callback. Rachel has contacted her allergist and she said another 6 weeks - which means we would miss all of the great spring RVing!


Hi Charlie,


I too have MCS and cannot take a plane or attend events where seating is fixed. It was a result of a chemical exposure incident in the lab where I worked. My sensitivity is more to the artificial scents in perfumes, body care products and laundry products, however when we got our Escape both my wife and I were sometimes overwhelmed by the off gassing. We had to keep our windows open more then and the Maxi-Fan on high. After a year we no longer noticed the smell. It may be that you are more affected by the Escapes off gassing than we were. We just recently had a crisis on purchasing an expensive foam mattress from Sleep Country. Two months of running two fans, opening the windows and keeping the room warm did the trick for us. The scents are gone from it. You may have to alter your travel plans to allow for your Escape’s off gassing to be over. Good luck with this.

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Old 04-26-2018, 04:23 PM   #35
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If you have room somewhere (garage?) you might think about setting the cushions on sawhorses and running a fan in there with the door open. The cushions are only part of the problem, I'm sure, but that might speed up the dissipation from the other materials in the trailer.
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Old 04-27-2018, 12:42 AM   #36
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Wow! I'm impressed with all the responses.

Yes, Rachel's MCS is quite severe. She did get Social Security disability for a while. For a number of years she could not go into most stores (many big box stores have "signature smells", i.e. poisonous chemicals) I'm getting quite involved in "fragrance free" efforts at our church and the chemical sensitivities epidemic is scary - 30% of the US population is affected, up from 6% in 2002.

We are keeping our 21 at a friends place (since our HOA does not allow us to park an RV for more than a day) where we have electricity. We are running an electric heater to get the temperature up to about 90F. it is sitting where the sun will help heat it during the day. We are also running an Austin Air air purifier that has a HEPA filter and a charcoal filter. The heat should speed the outgassing and the air purifier should capture some of the chemicals. We will open the trailer every three days and air it out completely, wipe it down with vinegar and water, then close it and repeat the cycle as necessary.

BTW, Rachel's allergist said six weeks for it to be safe.

We are researching ozone generators and ionizers. Ozone is also dangerous to ones health and the smell does linger. Ionizers have claims of great success, but much of that is by the manufacturers.

I'll keep you all posted.
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Old 04-27-2018, 07:32 AM   #37
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You've already received a lot of great suggestions, but just to share our experience - when we received our 2017 21', we parked it out in direct sunlight in an area where there is usually a light breeze, opened all the windows and entry door during the day, opened all the cabinet doors and drawers including under the bed, and spread the dinette cushions out on the table and counter tops. Luckily we had a lot of warm sunny weather with nice breezes, and it took about two weeks to get all the construction component chemical odors to clear out. I thought most of that "new trailer smell" was coming from the foam cushions/mattress, the wood paneling and the various adhesives that were still curing, but as others have mentioned, there were probably numerous other sources. We now store our 21' under a car port beside our house with the ceiling fan vent opened and the range hood vent propped open to allow passive cross ventilation, and it's fine. We'll also open the windows and entry door occasionally on cool, breezy day just to get some fresh air turnover inside. Best of luck....
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Info on ozone generators and links to indoor air quality info - worth a read:https://www.epa.gov/indoor-air-quali...d-air-cleaners
Good info, and you never want to occupy anything while running the ozone generators. We use them like bug bombs and run them in closed rentals between renters for about 4-7 days, and then come in and air the units out for a week or two before anyone occupies. They work incredibly on removing any odors and never had any reported issues.
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