View Poll Results: Do you have ETI supplied spray foam on your current trailer or one being built?
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Yes, it does
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71.43% |
No, it does not
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25.71% |
Yes, but I wish it did not
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No, but I wish it did
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2.86% |
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01-19-2019, 10:45 PM
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#41
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Santa Rosa, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 15B sold, 2019 Escape 19
Posts: 367
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arniesea
I have foam ordered on my new 5.0. My Build sheet is due Wed. Jan 23. I may change my mind depending on the results this poll! :-)
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Same here, finalizing our 19 build sheet this weekend, still debating about this one, the only thing still undecided.
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01-19-2019, 11:18 PM
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#42
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Woodland, California
Trailer: 2019 F150 eco boost with 2017 5.0 TA in tow
Posts: 116
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Foam Yes. Cooler, warmer, quieter and protects the under carriage from road hazards.
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01-20-2019, 12:55 AM
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#43
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Retired from Dallas & Full-Timing, Texas
Trailer: 2017 21' Escape as of 01/16/17
Posts: 1,312
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg A
I agree, Bob and was just going to email Jon to get it ready.
Pat, you and I both have classic 19's one foam and one no foam. I say we're the 19 test group at the Q.
We need a foamed and non foamed 17, 21, and 5.0 that are coming to Q that would like to participate in the study.
I am offering the Quarzsite Escape Foam Challenge that if each of the foamed trailers beats the surface floor temps under controlled conditions by +5 degrees(no Celsius allowed) of the non-foam trailers, then we'll head to Dairy Queen and the non-foam trailer owners will buy the foam trailer owners a small Blizzard of their choice.
If it is less than +5 degrees then the foam trailer owners will buy the non foam trailer owners the Blizzard of their choice.
This is an $800 CA option so I think it should at least yield +5 degrees difference, eh?
So waddya think, Pat. You feel lucky?
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Greg, I hereby volunteer our 2017 21’ TT (without foam) to participate in the 1st Annual Quartzsite Escape Foam Challenge. We plan to be situated in the upper ridge.
Fred M.
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Fred M.
"Whoever said retirement was overrated...
...never had an Escape"
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01-20-2019, 01:21 AM
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#44
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Chilliwack, British Columbia
Trailer: 2008 17B Escape
Posts: 766
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We have just had this done on our 2008 trailer.
We bought it used and it doesn't have double paned windows or extra insulation.
Doug used reflectix and carpet and did all the areas under all the seats (sure couldn't do the upper part!!) That has helped but I wanted more...
Anyway, figured it would help---we haven't seen it yet and won't use the trailer until May...but it was an add-on we could do even 10 years later!!!
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Anna-Marie
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01-20-2019, 06:11 AM
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#45
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
Trailer: None, sold my 2014 5.0TA
Posts: 7,124
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Not exactly ideal temps in Q right now for testing is there? You need to caravan to Calgary where you can really tell if foam works.
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Happy Motoring
Bob
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01-20-2019, 07:56 AM
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#46
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobbito
When Reace was touring the US doing his plumbing repairs, he encountered extreme heat in Arizona (I think that was the location) and the heat reflecting from the road heated his water to the point he couldn’t use it to wash or shower. I believe his trailer didn’t have spray-on foam.
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The foam will certainly slow the heating of the water but with the tank outside the conditioned space of the trailer it will still warm the water to ambient eventually. Same in the cold weather unless using a heat pad. When I was camping in 100 degree weather the water in the fresh tank was warm and the water in the hot water tank (off of course) was cool.
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01-20-2019, 09:36 AM
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#47
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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So far it appears to be about 2 to 1 ratio for foam vs non foam at least for the forum members...
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Jim
Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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01-20-2019, 10:46 AM
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#48
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19 "Seventy Degrees"
Posts: 3,495
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Dog
Greg, I hereby volunteer our 2017 21’ TT (without foam) to participate in the 1st Annual Quartzsite Escape Foam Challenge. We plan to be situated in the upper ridge.
Fred M.
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Got ya down Fred. We should have a 21 foamed out there to be the other half of ur test group.
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01-20-2019, 10:52 AM
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#49
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Left turn at Albuquerque, New Mexico
Trailer: 505 5.0TA
Posts: 147
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alanmalk
Foam, for sound and thermal insulation.
Scratched off our short list any manufacture that didn't offer foam as a factory option. And who was left...?
When it gets a little dinged up I hit it with some black spray paint.
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Alan
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I was going to ask this very question. Have not seen foam on any trailer. I think it would help keep temps stable.
Somewhat related question after reading posts that folks might add it later... where? Then I saw post 44 in this thread and I think I figured it out. I'm impressed!
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01-20-2019, 10:56 AM
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#50
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oswego, New York
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21C, 2018 Ford F150
Posts: 5,373
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Quote:
Originally Posted by padlin
Just a guess, but I'd bet Jon has one.
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Of course he does! No foam.
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01-20-2019, 11:16 AM
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#51
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,550
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Dog
Greg, I hereby volunteer our 2017 21’ TT (without foam) to participate in the 1st Annual Quartzsite Escape Foam Challenge. We plan to be situated in the upper ridge.
Fred M.
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A Snob Hill wannabe, eh? [emoji6]
I would be willing to have my trailer used for metering too. My brother has an uninsulated 2017 19 too.
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2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
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01-20-2019, 11:56 AM
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#52
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19 "Seventy Degrees"
Posts: 3,495
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Hey Jim,
If I recall ur a non foam 5.0, so we’ll find a foamed 5.0 for you to team up with. Your Bro will be the 2G non foam 19 group.
We’ll have an organization meeting and figure out all the control parameters. If nothing else, we’ll at least have a Blizzard party at the DQ and a few laughs.
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01-20-2019, 12:05 PM
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#53
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Boy, are we showing our age. From the Sage Pub in Osoyoos to the Dairy Queen in Quartzite...
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Jim
Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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01-20-2019, 12:06 PM
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#54
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,550
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg A
Hey Jim,
If I recall ur a non foam 5.0, so we’ll find a foamed 5.0 for you to team up with. Your Bro will be the 2G non foam 19 group.
We’ll have an organization meeting and figure out all the control parameters. If nothing else, we’ll at least have a Blizzard party at the DQ and a few laughs.
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True on my trailer, non-foamed.
And I loves me a Blizzard party.
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2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
“Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.” — Abraham Lincoln
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01-20-2019, 06:17 PM
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#55
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Soquel, California
Trailer: none yet
Posts: 25
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No foam on our 19' build sheet due January 25......but still pondering!
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01-20-2019, 10:00 PM
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#56
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: n/a, Texas
Trailer: Escape
Posts: 729
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No foam. Would think about adding rigid foam for floor insulation if I ever thought it was necessary. Factory option is undependable for preventing water freezing without significant mods such as extra insulation around valves, battery consuming heat tape, etc. Not necessary for road damage. Agree with others that shell insulation and thermal windows do the most for sound dampening. Agree that it is ugly. Prefer to have access to the underside of the trailer.
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01-21-2019, 12:10 AM
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#57
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Port Coquitlam, British Columbia
Trailer: 2018 19 ft Escape
Posts: 78
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2018 19 No foam but double pane windows and no regrets. Don't winter camp but will add rigid foam if I feel it would improve comfort. There are some excellent how to threads on this site. I appreciated the comment about the road heating the underside of the trailer. I never thought of that but it does make sense. I see a project coming.
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01-21-2019, 12:20 AM
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#58
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red
2018 19 No foam but double pane windows and no regrets. Don't winter camp but will add rigid foam if I feel it would improve comfort. There are some excellent how to threads on this site. I appreciated the comment about the road heating the underside of the trailer. I never thought of that but it does make sense. I see a project coming.
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Interesting about ground heat causing water tank to heat up . In the summer we were camping . The temps went up to 108 and we were in the sun . There was no problem with our foam covered water tank ,heating the water . That has been the hottest yet we were camping . I know places in Arizona can get way up there in temps . Our water was not hot at all.
Pat
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01-21-2019, 10:17 AM
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#59
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Retired from Dallas & Full-Timing, Texas
Trailer: 2017 21' Escape as of 01/16/17
Posts: 1,312
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
A Snob Hill wannabe, eh?.
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Of course! I am parked next to you guys!
Hee Hee...
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Fred M.
"Whoever said retirement was overrated...
...never had an Escape"
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01-22-2019, 08:13 AM
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#60
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: ..., New Mexico
Trailer: 2013 Esc19/'14 Silvrado
Posts: 4,193
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Speaking of Dairy Queen, and showing your age... I remember the widespread public anger and indignation when Dairy Queen announced they were eliminating the butter fat content in their ice cream. That was serious.
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Myron
"A billion here, a billion there...add it all up and before you know it you're talking real money." Everett Dirkson
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