View Poll Results: Do you have ETI supplied spray foam on your current trailer or one being built?
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Yes, it does
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No, it does not
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25.71% |
Yes, but I wish it did not
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No, but I wish it did
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01-22-2019, 08:22 AM
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#61
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,051
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MyronL
Speaking of Dairy Queen, and showing your age... I remember the widespread public anger and indignation when Dairy Queen announced they were eliminating the butter fat content in their ice cream. That was serious.
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No kidding! I had a co-worker that got really angry. In truth, the recipe never changed, it was just re-categorized due to FDA requirements. My co-worker burned up a bunch of adrenaline for nothing.
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Donna D.
Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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01-26-2019, 10:16 AM
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#62
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Port Townsend, Washington
Trailer: 2010 17B “MATT”, then 2017 19 “Lilly”
Posts: 1,584
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I just remembered one other, more obscure, reason to favor the foam: it blocks light and will reduce algae growth in fresh tank if you leave it stagnant in there for an extended time. How did I learn about this, you ask? Let’s just say that a few years ago we bought our first Escape used, and it had not been properly taken care of, ergo super grody science experiment out of the faucets.
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01-26-2019, 11:45 AM
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#63
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
Trailer: 2018 Escape 19
Posts: 2,720
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I figured out whey the foam people are winning...the non foam people are just to cool to vote.
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01-26-2019, 02:25 PM
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#64
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Bremerton, Washington
Trailer: 2019 5.0 TA
Posts: 1,141
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eggscape
I figured out whey the foam people are winning...the non foam people are just to cool to vote.
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Hmmm. yea, that's why.
Just looking through the tread, many of the non-foam folks are from New Mexico, Texas and Arizona. Whereas many of the foam folk are from the northern states or Canada. There are exceptions in both groups of course.
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- 2019 5.0 TA, 2017 Tundra Platinum.
- Bremerton, WA
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01-26-2019, 02:41 PM
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#65
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Kelowna, British Columbia
Trailer: 2018 Escape 19
Posts: 2,720
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To “cool” to vote...no foam...cold...
O well, I tried.
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01-26-2019, 03:18 PM
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#66
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: wrangell, Alaska
Trailer: 2015 escape 17b -sia-
Posts: 44
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no foam chosen here...I too like the idea of being able to inspect frame parts etc...having said this,I did have to have to sheath the black plumbing pipe that is hanging down and exposed with heavy rubber hose with wire ties to protect further damage from gravel strikes that it was getting...fgun/Wrangell,Alaska...wish I was heading for southwest and q-rally...have to pickup new tow vehicle...2007 1500 dodge ram starting having too many issues for long hauls...stay warm or cool...as needed ...but especially classy
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01-26-2019, 03:22 PM
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#67
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Maybe too hot to care...........
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Jim
Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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01-30-2019, 10:23 AM
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#68
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: vancouver island/black creek, British Columbia
Trailer: 2018 21
Posts: 29
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Spray foam poll
Yes I have the spray foam
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01-30-2019, 11:01 AM
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#69
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Bozeman, Montana
Trailer: 2019 Escape 19
Posts: 41
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Foam is a good thing
When leaving Great Basin Nat'l Park in early October, 2012, it was in the 20's, and I kept wondering what kind of a chill factor driving at 60 mph would due to the tanks, etc underneath. When Escape started offering the spray on foam for the trailer underside, we took our Escape 15 back to the factory, and had them put on the foam while we went backpacking in the Mt. Baker Wilderness. It is really nice to have it on there.
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01-30-2019, 11:10 AM
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#70
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Sharbot Lake, Ontario
Trailer: 2011 Escape 5.0
Posts: 23
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...we have foam and also heating pads that I think are on a thermostat...
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01-30-2019, 11:23 AM
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#71
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,051
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rajenkins
When leaving Great Basin Nat'l Park in early October, 2012, it was in the 20's, and I kept wondering what kind of a chill factor driving at 60 mph would due to the tanks, etc underneath. When Escape started offering the spray on foam for the trailer underside, we took our Escape 15 back to the factory, and had them put on the foam while we went backpacking in the Mt. Baker Wilderness. It is really nice to have it on there.
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Fortunately, wind chill only affects humans and animals. Although it is hard on plants in severe weather conditions. Inanimate objects only chill to the ambient temperature.
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Donna D.
Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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01-30-2019, 01:01 PM
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#72
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: New Freedom, Pennsylvania
Trailer: 2016 Escape 19, 2015
Posts: 24
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I like having the spray foam and thermopane windows for both cold and sound insulation. The sound is easier to notice and I'm always amazed that I can play music inside fairly loud and hardly hear a thing right outside. I also had to grin when I saw a Youtube video about how to deal with cold temps. The owner had one of those fancy aluminum trailers and was showing ways to insulate the non-thermopane windows which let in a lot of cold. Glad Escape has the option.
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01-30-2019, 01:10 PM
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#73
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Manahawkin, New Jersey
Trailer: Escape 19 2015
Posts: 20
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Of course, foam!
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01-30-2019, 06:39 PM
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#74
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,812
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfnjan
I like having the spray foam and thermopane windows for both cold and sound insulation. The sound is easier to notice and I'm always amazed that I can play music inside fairly loud and hardly hear a thing right outside. .
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And so is born an Urban Legend.
I don't know when the first comment was made that ETI spray insulation made the floor both warmer and the trailer quieter. But now it's a standard comment.
Maybe because I used to design sound shielding for some pretty fussy people and have a tiny bit of knowledge on the topic but I'm just a bit skeptical.
I'm skeptical largely because I believe credit is being given to the wrong item. Two variables were changed more or less at the same time, double glazing and foam. I went from a single glazed Scamp to a double glazed Escape without spray foam. I noticed how quiet it was when there were noises that you hear with the window cracked open compared to it being closed.
So...at Q'site we're already going to measure the difference in floor temperatures between a foamed and non-foam floor.
I propose that we also measure dB levels in a trailer with and without spray foam. Lets either confirm the acoustic benefits of spray foam or put an Urban Legend to bed.
Ron
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01-30-2019, 07:12 PM
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#75
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Tehachapi, California
Trailer: none
Posts: 515
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
And so is born an Urban Legend.
So...at Q'site we're already going to measure the difference in floor temperatures between a foamed and non-foam floor.
I propose that we also measure dB levels in a trailer with and without spray foam. Lets either confirm the acoustic benefits of spray foam or put an Urban Legend to bed.
Ron
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Looking forward to those results, Ron, as I am considering whether to add the foam when I order a trailer.
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Greg
Formerly owned a 2007 24' HiLo/ 2003 Tahoe combo. Interested in the 5.0TA
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02-08-2019, 08:15 AM
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#76
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Yarnell, Arizona
Trailer: 2024 Bigfoot 21 Rear Bed
Posts: 546
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Any results on the test yet as it is pretty cool at Q right now?
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Myrl and Gary
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02-08-2019, 08:51 AM
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#77
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 2013 19' & 2013 15B
Posts: 2,636
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
And so is born an Urban Legend.
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So...at Q'site we're already going to measure the difference in floor temperatures between a foamed and non-foam floor.
I propose that we also measure dB levels in a trailer with and without spray foam. Lets either confirm the acoustic benefits of spray foam or put an Urban Legend to bed.
Ron
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Hey I like that urban legend! You really should not try to confuse the issue with facts!
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"It is better to remain silent at the risk of being thought a fool, than to talk and remove all doubt of it." - 1907, Maurice Switzer
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06-09-2019, 08:30 PM
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#78
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Rangeley, Maine
Trailer: 2005 Escape 17B Sold 2016. 2016 Escape 19 Sold 2019. 2019 Escape 21 picked up Sep 2019
Posts: 173
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Results from QSite testing?
Hey y'all... did you ever do the testing at Quartzsite? Any results?
We're considering going from our 19 to a 21 and are wondering about the foam insulation.
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Dolly
These are the good old days!
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06-09-2019, 09:06 PM
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#79
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sallemann
Hey y'all... did you ever do the testing at Quartzsite? Any results?
We're considering going from our 19 to a 21 and are wondering about the foam insulation.
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Unfortunately there just wasn't enough time . Greg was very busy doing things with the ralley . I didn't see him stop . Pat
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06-09-2019, 09:19 PM
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#80
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Lancaster, Pennsylvania
Trailer: E 21 2019 Tow Vehicle: 2019 4Runner Limited
Posts: 740
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfnjan
I like having the spray foam and thermopane windows for both cold and sound insulation. The sound is easier to notice and I'm always amazed that I can play music inside fairly loud and hardly hear a thing right outside.
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If you can hardly hear a thing right outside it might be because you are playing the music too loud.
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