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Old 02-02-2016, 01:17 PM   #161
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Thanks Jim,
You can be assured I will have it along at Osoyoos, The Wine Escape and the Mississippi River Function. Someone is bound to have a methodology for weighing the fifth wheel weight. It would seem to me to be a front and back axle situation like they use on semi trailer rigs. Probably take a tolerant scale person at the local quarry, landfill or grain elevator on a slow day. I'm not sure a scrapple bribe would be enough. I'm thinking cookies at the least. I noticed a scale at a local logging and lumber mill west of us the other day. Without anyone around and nobody on the scale, the digital readout showed 60 pounds? No sure about the accuracy, might have been that much mud on the plate. Thanks again,
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Old 02-02-2016, 01:43 PM   #162
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Since I will no longer be using that Sherline, you can have it. Just be sure and offer others at various rallies the chance to use it, it can become a "group" scale passed around. Not sure how to measure pin weight?
Could you not just block up under the hitch, and lower the kingpin onto the scale. A few wood blocks in the back of a pickup would get you to the right height.
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Old 02-02-2016, 01:46 PM   #163
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I do not think you can weight something that is on a suspension, as your truck bed, maybe inaccurate. Also not sure if the kingpin will fit onto the Sherline.
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Old 02-02-2016, 01:50 PM   #164
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There are instructions for using the Sherline to measure fifth wheel at Sherline site.

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Old 02-02-2016, 01:54 PM   #165
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I do not think you can weight something that is on a suspension, as your truck bed, maybe inaccurate. Also not sure if the kingpin will fit onto the Sherline.
Weight is mass acting downwards, and being on a suspension would not matter at all. Never thought about the scale actually fitting.

edit: Or just follow the guidelines baglo posted.
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Jim if it turns out that you need a piece of plate steel to span or fit over the scale pin for stability, let me know, I have some here and can get more.
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Old 02-02-2016, 04:51 PM   #167
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Thanks Dave, perhaps you can make a piece that fits in the middle hole, the black thing in the middle unscrews. That way others can use it for both tongue and pin weights, thanx
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Old 02-03-2016, 08:38 PM   #168
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I do not think you can weight something that is on a suspension, as your truck bed, maybe inaccurate.
The only problem is if the pin height is not the same as when towing, since the height affects how the load distributes between the axles and the pin. As long as it settles at about the right height, weighing the pin in the truck bed (as Sherline suggests) makes perfect sense to me.

Also, if your hitch positions the pin directly over the axle, or very close, you can just take the difference of drive-over scale readings for the truck's rear axle with and without the trailer... or regardless of the hitch position take the difference of drive-over scale readings for the entire truck with and without the trailer.
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Old 02-04-2016, 11:49 AM   #169
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Those of us in the US awaiting being able to order and wanting to take advantage of the low CAD/USD exchange rate can consider this ETF (exchange traded fund) CurrencyShares Canadian Dollar ETF (FXC) If you buy shares of it, you are essentially just buying CADs. If the CAD goes up in relation to the USD from your purchase price of the shares you win , (if the CAD goes down further you lose ), but it gives you another option.
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Do they teach personal fiscal responsibility in school? Seems like a good use of student and teacher time. I haven't been in public school for a half a century but did manage some pretty good sized budgets when I was working. Sometimes you have to say no.
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that's funny..if they did that in the USA, then the USA consumer based economy would collapse...the young consumers motto is " have to have that "I thingy" now and will go into more debt today to get it".... even if its obsolete the minute its purchased if not before!
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that's funny..if they did that in the USA, then the USA consumer based economy would collapse...the young consumers motto is " have to have that "I thingy" now and will go into more debt today to get it".... even if its obsolete the minute its purchased if not before!
Wow censorship in action . Your comment quoting Glenn at 11:36 am disappeared on this thread . Came through on my e- mail before it disappeared . Pat
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Not a clue what you are talking about Pat.
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Not a clue what you are talking about Pat.
Maybe he removed it himself . Pat
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that's funny..if they did that in the USA, then the USA consumer based economy would collapse...the young consumers motto is " have to have that "I thingy" now and will go into more debt today to get it".... even if its obsolete the minute its purchased if not before!
I will never understand all the millennial hate.
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The option list has changed once sgain! (At least for the 19): Extra insulation & frameless thermal windows (incl opening rear window, frt window with rock shield non thermal), and storage cubby cabinet bins for outside bathroom door
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Frameless Windows

There is no pic on the ETI website for the frameless windows. Are they like these?
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The option list has changed once sgain! (At least for the 19): Extra insulation & frameless thermal windows (incl opening rear window, frt window with rock shield non thermal), and storage cubby cabinet bins for outside bathroom door
Would like to see storage cubby outside bath door ? Pat
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Old 02-06-2016, 12:59 PM   #179
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The option list has changed once sgain! (At least for the 19): Extra insulation & frameless thermal windows (incl opening rear window, frt window with rock shield non thermal), and storage cubby cabinet bins for outside bathroom door
Interesting! Thanks for posting.

Well, that confirms that the frameless windows will be thermal. Good! And they'll probably look like what Karen posted as that type seems to be on a vast majority of RVs these days. Most are awning type, but you can also get them with a slider window.

I found this link when I was cruising around, looking for info on frameless RV windows:

Guide to RV Windows, It's All About the Glass

Edit: They're listed on all of the trailers (least the windows; I didn't check for the cubbies, but would assume so).
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This is really a "2017 model information" topic, rather than "price increase" discussion...
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The option list has changed once sgain! (At least for the 19): Extra insulation & frameless thermal windows (incl opening rear window, frt window with rock shield non thermal)...
Many of the option listings (and it seems more than previously) include a make and model, or a photo, or both. This seems like a good item to have that extra description.

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There is no pic on the ETI website for the frameless windows. Are they like these?
I don't know, but that's the style I have seen on other brands of trailers... usually relatively expensive trailers (most that I have seen in RV shows in even the last year are still not this style). Of course they are not actually frameless, but the glass (just the outer pane in the case of dual-pane) overlaps the frame; that looks good and might conduct a bit less heat.

The "frameless" design does stick out more from the trailer wall than a conventional window. This might be an opportunity to take advantage of what can be done with moulded fiberglass, by recessing the window area so that the outer glass surface is flush with the surrounding trailer body, but since that would shift the window further into the interior it would make sense only with a thicker body wall, such as one using the core material that Escape puts in the roof of larger models.
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