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Old 09-15-2019, 02:05 PM   #121
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My wife and I find that the microphone on the backup camera actually serves us very well. No more shouting to be heard throughout the campground, or hunting for batteries because the walkie talkies are dead again!
Yes I can hear her besides see her !Pat
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Old 09-15-2019, 02:06 PM   #122
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That’s it. Especially when checking rear lights prior to taking off. I can clearly hear the wife calling out the functioning of our lights. She can’t hear me though. Haha
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Each to their own . I love the backup camera and find it very useful . Pat
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Old 09-15-2019, 02:25 PM   #123
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That was one negative that I had on my previous 19. I haven't had time yet to crawl under my new 21 and examine the wiring etc. I expect that I'll be installing a buss wire that picks up the brake grounds etc. as I don't like important items relying on grounds screwed to the frame where corrosion can occur.

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Ron please document when you get to this . Ours is still like the day we picked up . Probably because our weather is drier no problems yet but I want to be prepared and improve if I can . Pat
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Old 09-15-2019, 04:02 PM   #124
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Ron please document when you get to this . Pat
No worries there, I document everything.

On my 19 I ran a large negative buss wire that picked up the brake grounds as well as other grounds that were screwed to the frame. So I'll likely be doing the same on the 21 unless has changed their ways.

So far I've seen one thing that they've changed. What drove me nuts on the 19 was seeing the ground wire leave the battery and go down and be screwed to the frame. Then 18" away the ground from the panel came down and screwed to the frame. Each attachment point has the potential (no pun) to corrode, develop corrosion and create a poor ground situation.

I'm happy to see that the ground on my 21 first leads directly to a negative terminal on the back of the panel.

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Old 09-15-2019, 04:21 PM   #125
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No worries there, I document everything.

On my 19 I ran a large negative buss wire that picked up the brake grounds as well as other grounds that were screwed to the frame. So I'll likely be doing the same on the 21 unless has changed their ways.

So far I've seen one thing that they've changed. What drove me nuts on the 19 was seeing the ground wire leave the battery and go down and be screwed to the frame. Then 18" away the ground from the panel came down and screwed to the frame. Each attachment point has the potential (no pun) to corrode, develop corrosion and create a poor ground situation.

I'm happy to see that the ground on my 21 first leads directly to a negative terminal on the back of the panel.

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Good Ron ! Donít forget I am good with pictures but not understanding electrical not so much . Pat
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Old 09-15-2019, 04:35 PM   #126
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No worries there, I document everything.

On my 19 I ran a large negative buss wire that picked up the brake grounds as well as other grounds that were screwed to the frame. So I'll likely be doing the same on the 21 unless has changed their ways.

So far I've seen one thing that they've changed. What drove me nuts on the 19 was seeing the ground wire leave the battery and go down and be screwed to the frame. Then 18" away the ground from the panel came down and screwed to the frame. Each attachment point has the potential (no pun) to corrode, develop corrosion and create a poor ground situation.

I'm happy to see that the ground on my 21 first leads directly to a negative terminal on the back of the panel.

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The frame ground connections I have found so far on the 21 are the 7 pin junction box negative to frame and the converter negative bus to the frame.

The 7 pin junction box negative to frame insures a trailer negative connection through the trailer hitch to the TV.

The converter negative bus to the frame is there to meet code requirements.
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Old 09-15-2019, 06:16 PM   #127
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Jim that repair on the front of your Escape, how did that happen again?
Oh yes, there was that wee ding. I had forgot about that.

Must be that brain trauma I recently went through. LOL
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Old 09-15-2019, 06:20 PM   #128
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Absolutely, there should be a ground to the frame. What I did still left the original grounds in contact with the frame but, for example, my converter ground lug had face to face contact with the battery negative ground lug and the white buss wire went to other grounds, including the brakes. The lugs attached to a common stud threaded into the frame. So much less potential for corrosion to develop between them than indivdual attachment screws attaching each ground to the frame. The complete assembly was then sealed with liquid electrical tape.

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Old 09-29-2019, 07:11 AM   #129
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Still heading home after Orientation and noticed a cut covered up with the boo boo tape (faux tape). The rear panel above the cabinet has been cut (top to bottom) and covered up with the tape. I would think that piece of wood would be one continuous piece. Not sure if others have this too. ETI did give me some extra tape which is a perfect match.
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Old 09-29-2019, 09:05 AM   #130
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Still heading home after Orientation and noticed a cut covered up with the boo boo tape (faux tape). The rear panel above the cabinet has been cut (top to bottom) and covered up with the tape. I would think that piece of wood would be one continuous piece. Not sure if others have this too. ETI did give me some extra tape which is a perfect match.


I noticed the same in a couple of spots on our 5.0.
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If it is in a place longer than 4 ft, it will have a splice joint. The tape is cleaner than a piece of trim covering the joint
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Still heading home after Orientation and noticed a cut covered up with the boo boo tape (faux tape). The rear panel above the cabinet has been cut (top to bottom) and covered up with the tape. I would think that piece of wood would be one continuous piece. Not sure if others have this too. ETI did give me some extra tape which is a perfect match.
I've noticed a number of places where boo boo tape was used. It does match fairly well as you have to really look to see it.

All's good though as I have used the tape myself in several places since. Kinda like that first scratch on a new car - it doesn't bother you as much when another one appears. Escape just gets that "first scratch" problem taken care of for you right from the start.
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:06 PM   #133
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If it is in a place longer than 4 ft, it will have a splice joint. The tape is cleaner than a piece of trim covering the joint
I appreciate jumboscott's post on this, as I too discovered tape. But I believe you are right, after a while came to the conclusion that it was in locations where a splice was necessary.
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I always thought splices were used in wiring and joints used in wood, or woods if not legal...
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I always thought splices were used in wiring and joints used in wood, or woods if not legal...
I think to be technically correct we should have called it a "Butt Joint"

A butt joint is a technique in which two pieces of material are joined by simply placing their ends together without any special shaping. The name 'butt joint' comes from the way the material is joined together.
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:47 PM   #136
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I always thought splices were used in wiring and joints used in wood...
According to Merriam-Webster, there would need to be overlap at the joint for the term to apply to a joint between two pieces of wood, but then it would be correct. Cambridge and Collins do not require the overlap for the term to be appropriate in this case.
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:56 PM   #137
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I think to be technically correct we should have called it a "Butt Joint"

A butt joint is a technique in which two pieces of material are joined by simply placing their ends together without any special shaping. The name 'butt joint' comes from the way the material is joined together.
Can't remember the last time I did a 'Butt Joint'
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Well in reference to my original post/subject, I now have my rear camera working again. I had to slice and peel back the headliner to install a new power cable(FREE FROM RV SYSTEMS) in a proper way with the beautiful weather-proof cable connector on the outside of the shell. Now when Escape tells me to remove the camera from my new camper and send it back to RV SYSTEMS I won’t have to take a side-cutter to the power cable and improvise for re-connection.
And to all those thruout this post who just could not understand my choice to have a rear camera, go rip the rear view mirror s out of all your cars and rely solely on your side mirrors. Then come back and tell me if you miss the rear view it provided.
Which is exactly what a high mounted rear camera is, a rear view mirror.
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Well in reference to my original post/subject, I now have my rear camera working again. I had to slice and peel back the headliner to install a new power cable(FREE FROM RV SYSTEMS) in a proper way with the beautiful weather-proof cable connector on the outside of the shell. Now when Escape tells me to remove the camera from my new camper and send it back to RV SYSTEMS I wonít have to take a side-cutter to the power cable and improvise for re-connection.
And to all those thruout this post who just could not understand my choice to have a rear camera, go rip the rear view mirror s out of all your cars and rely solely on your side mirrors. Then come back and tell me if you miss the rear view it provided.
Which is exactly what a high mounted rear camera is, a rear view mirror.
Glad you got yours fixed . They are invaluable in my humble opinion! At least you didnít have your camera burn out from incorrect installation like ours was . Ours was the Voyager and camera replacement was too expensive so had to replace the whole system and just sold the monitor for 50.00 Pat
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