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Old 07-22-2020, 12:12 PM   #101
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Just did a double-check and the ceramic heater works excellently at all thermostat levels so long as its internal fan is kept at low. Get the orange light only when changing fan to high. Same issue with the hair dryer - heat great on low but kick it up to high fan and no go.

Controls of air conditioner are consistent. Turn left to fan and it blows. Coolish air but not super cold, regardless of thermostat setting on right dial. It's 75 degrees here currently. Turn left dial over to the right and Boom, crash! My inner Jack Benny is now hard at work.
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Old 07-22-2020, 12:41 PM   #102
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Just did a double-check and the ceramic heater works excellently at all thermostat levels so long as its internal fan is kept at low. Get the orange light only when changing fan to high. Same issue with the hair dryer - heat great on low but kick it up to high fan and no go.

Controls of air conditioner are consistent. Turn left to fan and it blows. Coolish air but not super cold, regardless of thermostat setting on right dial. It's 75 degrees here currently. Turn left dial over to the right and Boom, crash! My inner Jack Benny is now hard at work.
Myron,
Check the tags on your heater and hair dryer and see what watts they use.(watts divided by volts=amps) You'd be surprised how high some of those are.
Remember they're just dead shorts! They might be marginal for the genset at low, then kick it off when clicked into high.
I know my wife had a hair dryer that pulled more amps than the A/C!
And as John said the easy start box ramps up the amps to the compressor motor slowly allowing the genset to keep up.
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Old 07-22-2020, 02:14 PM   #103
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I was lucky that my Serial Number fell within the range required to pair with the 2200. It works well. I'm really curious what the harm would be to run it with one outside the range they give. I'm gonna do a google search and see if anything comes up.
Probably screw up the inverter.
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Old 07-22-2020, 03:27 PM   #104
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Myron,

I know for a fact that Charlie (Tractors1) has a 21 foot Escape and has run his A/C on a Honda EU2000i because he got his trailer just before I picked up mine (in 2015 before Honda increased to the EU2200I. We PM’d back and forth about generators and back-up cameras around that time. That was even before ETI added backup cameras as an option. I know Reace also tested the Honda EU2000 and said it would run the A/C as long as that was all you were trying to run.
I would try one more time, but switch every circuit breaker other than the A/C’s breaker off. I know that my EMS readout display indicates the A/C draws around 16.5 amps to start, and around 12 amps once running. But I do have the digital thermostat which controls bothe the A/C and the furnace, and when the thermostat calls for cooling, the Dometic’s fan starts immediately, and about five seconds later the compressor comes on. With them starting separately, the initial electrical demand is lessened. You can also try turning the A/C’s fan on and when it reaches speed, quickly turn the control to start the compressor.
Your Wen has a higher wattage rating than my Honda; it should start your A/C. I am beginning to wonder if Wen is guilty of over-hyping it’s output. And if you have the EMS, run the A/C on shore power first and see how many amps it pulls when starting and when running.
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Old 08-04-2020, 09:28 AM   #105
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Folks,


Perhaps my experience/forum learning can provide a helpful path with using a generator.


There are two loads that the generator must manage and both can be managed to include using the air conditioning. The starting/peak load and the running load. Getting the AC working is a matter of managing the starting load.



My set up is a 2019 19' with solar package and a Champion 2000/1800 dual fuel gen that I run only on propane. Also no higher than 2000' elevation.


First minimize all loads in the trailer. Two that sneak up on me are the battery charger (can be turned off /isolated with the battery switch) and the electric water heater (which is isolated with the external switch).


Start gen, let run to warm up. Deselect eco idle mode.
Using the thermostat, I turn the AC fan only mode on to low fan. The generator will rev up and assume a higher rpm to handle the peak then running mode of the fan.
Next, again using the thermostat, I turn on the AC compressor by selecting the AC on.
This effectively spreads the peak/starting load over two events rather than one. It also gets the generator into a higher rpm with the fan running which allows it to react better to the peak/starting load of the AC compressor.


Hope that helps a few
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Old 08-04-2020, 11:23 AM   #106
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Perhaps my experience/forum learning can provide a helpful path with using a generator.


There are two loads that the generator must manage and both can be managed to include using the air conditioning. The starting/peak load and the running load. Getting the AC working is a matter of managing the starting load.



My set up is a 2019 19' with solar package and a Champion 2000/1800 dual fuel gen that I run only on propane. Also no higher than 2000' elevation.


First minimize all loads in the trailer. Two that sneak up on me are the battery charger (can be turned off /isolated with the battery switch) and the electric water heater (which is isolated with the external switch).


Start gen, let run to warm up. Deselect eco idle mode.
Using the thermostat, I turn the AC fan only mode on to low fan. The generator will rev up and assume a higher rpm to handle the peak then running mode of the fan.
Next, again using the thermostat, I turn on the AC compressor by selecting the AC on.
This effectively spreads the peak/starting load over two events rather than one. It also gets the generator into a higher rpm with the fan running which allows it to react better to the peak/starting load of the AC compressor.


Hope that helps a few
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This is really good information to hear that you have success running the a/c without any additional help. This is the exact setup i was looking for but i was going to buy and add the a/c slow start helping item that I have book marked but cant think of the name at the moment. So this will save me $300 or so. Thanks again for sharing your experience.
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Old 08-04-2020, 12:52 PM   #107
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You might also read my thread in Problem Solving, titled "The Micro air easy start."
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